Strength Training with Single, Double and Triple Progression
120x20_su_blue.gif twitter Facebookdiggdel.icio.us Bookmark and Share

by Eric Troy

This article is about basic strength traning progression. If you are looking for information on using single rep training you should read The Singles Scene

The only other person, besides myself, that I've known to speak in-depth about single, double, and triple progression is Anthony Ditillo. However, to be frank, most of what he said about it makes no sense to me and he seems to have been applying the terms to established styles of training as an alternative to what others had named their training methods, such as "the pyramid system".

When Ditillo spoke of single and double progression he seems to have meant simply allowing yourself to use more than one way to progress. Or in other words to manipulate more than one parameter. This should be common sense.

Consider that there are basically three ways to progress (there are MANY ways to progress but we are only considering three direct ways). You can add weight the the bar. You can add reps to existing sets with a given weight. Or, you can add sets to an already established number of sets with a given weight.

Ditillo discusses these same parameters concerning single, double and triple progression. However, it becomes clear, with due study, that most of the time he is only talking about progressing by one parameter at any one time and is simply speaking of using more than one parameter as a means to progress over a PERIOD OF TIME. So, to simply say that there is more than one way to progress over a period of time and then to give this a name, i.e. "double progressive system" or "triple progressive system" is, to me, simply an attempt to organize his thoughts about training and has not much to do with actually using anything more than single progression since a single parameter is increased at any one point in time.

To me, therefore, it's just a name and I appreciate Ditillo's efforts at calling our attention to the fact that there are many ways to progress, I don't think that one can rightly call his ideas examples of "double progression" or "triple progression" in any way other than CHOOSING to name his ideas that.

My biggest problem with it is that even though you may only be progressing by one parameter in any given workout, if you use more than one parameter in any given training period people think this is "triple progression". Without even knowing what that means it simple SOUNDS like "too much"!

Tell a beginner that he can also add reps and sets rather than just weight and you will likely have armchair trainers shouting, NO! Beginners can't use triple progression! When, in fact, single, double, and triple progression is tailor made for the beginner. And a trainee CAN progress by MORE THAN ONE MEANS in a workout. He or she can use only single, or use double or triple and with a minimum of reactive based training this can naturally flow with the trainees state of preparedness.

The great thing about being free to use all three is it can allow you to vary the stimulus so that you don’t get burned out. It can also allow you to slowly build on the volume and then back down to a base volume while increasing intensity…built in natural peaks. With all that said, it is required to get out of the mindset of a certain number of reps being the be all and end all, and just knowing that adding reps has a benefit up to a point just as adding sets does.

So, after establishing that we are talking about load (weight on the bar), reps, and sets, Ditillo and I part ways. But I'd like to be clear that I have the greatest respect for Anthony Dittilo's teachings and his book, "The Development of Physical Strength" has had a great influence on me as well as many of his articles. He helped form my ideas about strength consolidation which basically entails increasing work tolerance at a given range - and Ditillo was a big proponent of this type of thing.

Before I begin this explanation of single, double and triple progression for strength training I need to state some very important things up front.

The first thing you will notice is that these concepts are about numbers. And I'm sure most of you reading this will be quite familiar with numbers in strength training. Most training rationales have an increase in numbers as their primary means of progression.

This may be increased weight. Increased reps. Increased sets…but it's always about numbers. So I want to be clear that there are MANY different ways to progress and many different things that REPRESENT progression. Strength training is NOT JUST ABOUT NUMBERS. There are many things you can improve that have nothing to do with numbers and that improvement represents progression…and that can lead to higher numbers down the road.

<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
<title>Above Article Ads</title>
</head>
 
<body>
<body bgcolor="#E6EFF6">
 
<script  src="http://tag.contextweb.com/TagPublish/getjs.aspx?action=VIEWAD&cwrun=200&cwadformat=120X600&cwpid=514880&cwwidth=120&cwheight=600&cwpnet=1&cwtagid=66369"></script>
<!-- Badge ends -->
</body>
 
</html>

What is SDT?

The remainder of this article will sometimes refer to single, double, and triple progression as SDT for short.

SDT uses three main ways to progress and these concepts can be used at any time in ones strength training career but it should never be considered the be all and end all. There comes a point where everyone has to focus on that one "ingredient" in order to see changes in absolute strength. Individuals who are new to strength training, and to resistance training in general, will find this the most useful as a primary means of training. More advanced trainees may want to use it more as an adjunct for secondary lifts or as a way to gather volume. Although even those individuals will have need for it, as, for example, my use of it in the 'strength consolidation' routine.

The first thing you should notice, which should be clear from the beginning of this article, is that there is nothing new or innovative in the basic PARAMETERS of progression. It's so simple you may think this is just plain belaboring the obvious. However, even though most people are aware of these basic parameters of progression, most never really use them in the way I will outline in this article.

We will assume that rest periods will remain fairly constant for simplicity. Keep in mind, however, that depending on your needs and goals, more or less rest between sets can be used. For example, rest periods can be gradually decreased for strength endurance.

Using single, double, and single progression the way I will explain is somewhat a "reactive" based way of training and progressing. The fact is I've been teaching people how to use this for years..long before "reactive" training was a 'brand name'. But reaction is only part of it. Like any good training we make a plan but we allow ourselves to think on our feet and adapt to our changing needs.

To reiterate, the three way to progress:

1. Add weight to an existing number of sets and reps.

2. Add reps to an existing number of sets (call this increasing density/volume. Adding any number of reps to any or all sets is progression. Adding any number of reps to any or all sets is progression.

3. Add set(s). Adding a set alone is single progression even if that added set isn't the same number of reps as the previous sets. Now, you have to use logic here. If you were doing 3x5 and you added one more set of two, that would be less progression than adding two reps to the first set of five. You see? Becasue of the rest and recovery involved. This should give you the idea that, up to a point, one should first attempt to add reps to existing sets before attempting to add sets.

Such an idea would be absolutely correct as long as one keeps in mind that it is only correct, as stated 'up to a point'.

So, during any one workout, we can use single, double, or triple progression and at any time we can add weight to the base volume. When we add weight to the base volume we start again from there or we establish a new base to work from depending on our goals.

Sometimes it's useful to simply count the reps and then look at any added reps as a percentage of the starting reps. This helps keep us reasonable because in fact many times we are making very big additions in volume without even realizing it. It doesn't seem much just looking at it but in pure mathematical terms it is in fact very large. Adding another set of five to an existing 3x5 sets is a thirty percent increase in total volume.

An example of something that may happen in the gym:

Week 1 150 x 6 reps x 2 sets
Week 2 155 x 6 reps x 2 sets
Week 3 160 x 6 reps x 2 sets, 160 x 4 reps x 1 set
Week 4 175 x 4 reps x 3 sets

Can you spot the weeks that are single progression and the weeks that are double progression?

In week two, we add 5 pounds to the bar and do the same number of sets and reps. So single progression. In week three we add 5 pounds to the bar and do the same number of sets and reps plus we add one more set of 4. Double progression: we have added load AND volume. In week three, we add two reps to our last set of 4 from the previous week. Single progression. In week 4 we add weight but drop the volume and density back a bit, but not that much. So we consider this single progression.

This may be somewhat an extreme example when looking at week three. It's not that such thing is impossible only that if one were able to add 5 pounds to the bar AND add a four rep set it begs the question of whether more weight should have been utilized at the outset.

But such an example serves to illustrate how using single and double progression gives us a natural way to gauge our training.

So here is the example again labeled:

Week 1 150 x 6 reps x 2 sets Base
Week 2 155 x 6 reps x 2 sets Single Progression
Week 3 160 x 6 reps x 2 sets, 160 x 4 reps x 1 set Double Progression
Week 4 175 x 4 reps x 3 sets Single Progression

Note that since the total number of reps in week four is the same as in week one. But the density has decreased as it took us three sets instead of two to to it. But we have increased the load fifteen pounds from the previous workout and 25 pounds since week one. So, given such a big jump in poundage and a relatively short time we consider week 4 to be single progression FROM week one, made possible and/or manifested by weeks three and four.

So, by the same token, if it took twelve weeks to get to that 175 pounds then we could not compare it reasonably to week one but instead would have to gauge our progress by the weeks leading up. To avoid the possible confusion that long and drawn out periods of progression present, I separate the progressions into four to six week phases.

Therefore, as in the above example, we have a four week phase. A new baseline is established in the fourth week with three sets of four with 175 pounds. So our new phase can start with that but keeping in mind our original starting point. In week one of this new phase we might repeat the last workout of the old phase, our starting point for this one. But in the example below we will continue to progress:

Week 1 175 x 5 reps x 3 sets single progression
Week 2 175 x 7 reps X 1 set, 175 x 5 reps x 2 set single progression
Week 3 175 x 7 reps x 3 sets single progression
Week 4 180 x 3 reps x 1 set, 175 x 8 reps x 1 sets, 175 x 7 reps x 2 sets triple progression
week 5 180 x 5 reps x 1 set, 175 x 8 reps x 1 set, 175 x 7 reps x 2 sets single progression
week 6 190 x 6 reps x 2 sets basic progression

Note that in week six we add weight but drop the volume back down to the original two sets of six. Even though we have added ten more pound we have cut the volume by more than half. So we have progressed forty pounds from our starting point and deloaded a bit from the aggressive volume we had built up.

This is example may be pushing it to the edge of what is possible except for novice trainees. But of course this way of progressing is particularly suited for novice trainees. However, all such examples are ONLY examples. They are not to be taken as a recipe for progression. Although there is nothing wroing with having a loose plan in place for how you wish to progress, SDT allows you to simply progress by whatever means your are able to do at the time. Or, whatever you feel like doing at the time.

Unlike rote linear/single progression schemes you will always be able to progress in some way and will not have to ever REMOVE weight from the bar. Personally, I cannot think of a more psychologically damaging concept for a trainee than to continually have to remove weight from the bar in order to build back up and continue progressing in the same mundane way you were doing it before. And I certainly wouldn't call such a process "efficient". So SDT represents a simple and natural way to progress. It is not contrived and stilted and that is exactly what makes it elegant.

How about an example using pullups?

Week 1 6 sets x 1 rep base
Week 2 7 sets x 1 rep Single Progression
Week 3 2 sets x 2 reps, 5 sets x 1 rep single Progression
Week 4 1 set x 3 reps, 2 sets x 2 reps, 6 sets x 1 rep double Progression
Week 5 2 sets x 3 reps, 2 sets x 2 reps, 5 sets x 1 rep Single Progression
Week 6 2 set x 3 reps, 3 sets x 2 reps, 5 sets x 1 rep Double Progression
Week 7 5 sets x 1 rep w/added weight, 1 set x 3 reps, 3 sets x 2 reps Single Progression

That should serve for now as a general introduction to the concept. This is not to be taken as a program but simply as a set of guidelines to be used as needed. My use of the abbreviation SDT was only so I didn't have to write out the words single, double, triple thoughout. Please don't take this a "stamp" such as with HIT or HST. Take it as my attempt to remind you what you may have forgotten or simply had beaten from you by all the programs out there.

<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
<title>Above Article Ads</title>
</head>
 
<body>
<!-- 2 This is the HTML section of the badge -->
<script  src="http://tag.contextweb.com/TagPublish/getjs.aspx?action=VIEWAD&cwrun=200&cwadformat=728X90&cwpid=514880&cwwidth=728&cwheight=90&cwpnet=1&cwtagid=54612"></script>
 
<!-- Badge ends -->
</body>
 
</html>

Progression
JoeWeirJoeWeir 1252165315|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

We both knew this subject would be difficult and I couldn't have written it as comprehensive as you've written it. I would've confused the s^&% out of everyone too, lol. Well done!

Now that the topic has been 'thrown out there' our readers can ask, comment and discuss. With input from readers this topic will really become a monster. And, from what I've seen, its a monster that you won't find anywhere else.


The strength trainee says "Why sacrifice intensity when I can sacrifice volume"
The bodybuilder says "Why sacrifice intensity when I can sacrifice form"

Last edited on 1252165347|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover By JoeWeir + Show more
Unfold Progression by JoeWeirJoeWeir, 1252165315|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
_Wolf__Wolf_ 1252165747|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I completely agree, Joe. This is some excellent condensed and concise information about a very tricky topic.

Unfold by _Wolf__Wolf_, 1252165747|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
SDT Progression
EricTEricT 1252175765|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thanks, guys. This was a sort of a thorn in my side. The more you say about it the more you make it what it is not. And since it is more defined by what it is not than what it is, what do you say? I had to explain enough so that someone could begin to use it without turning it into a dogmatic system so that they could not use it!


Follow us Twitter_32x32.png Facebook grunge icon by Lenka Meleakova

Unfold SDT Progression by EricTEricT, 1252175765|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
not so sure
Sal (guest) 1262035736|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Sounds great - once linear progression stops working. If a beginner is able to add 5lbs each workout with the same number of reps/sets why mess around with double or triple progression? Once he hits his max, resets and hits his max again then SDT becomes a useful tool as liner progression has come to a halt and he now needs to alternate intensity and volume to make gains.

Unfold not so sure by Sal (guest), 1262035736|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
EricTEricT 1262040493|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thanks for the comment.

"If a beginner can do this, why do that?" is pretty much the standby argument for that mentality.

Let me pose some similar questions.

If I can drive 120 miles per hour in a rain storm, why should I drive 55?

If I can hammer a nail in with a sledgehammer, why should I use a regular hammer?

If I can saw a 2x4 in half with a chainsaw, why should I use a skillsaw?

If I can live on a diet of twinkies, why should I eat anything else?

I could go on and on with that. The purpose is not to prove, with those rhetorical questions, that the assumptions about beginner training are invalid, it is to show that rhetorical questions themselves are invalid as a means of argument. I outlined in that article many reasons why. I did not simply say "why not?" So, to you, I would answer that question, with "Why SHOULD a beginner train that way?" Not why should he NOT, why SHOULD he?

I can tell you a million reasons why something should not be.

Most beginners can make linear progression. However there are a lot of loaded assumptions in the word "progression". What you, and some other people might call progression, i.e. "adding weight" to the bar while movement quality breaks down, I do NOT call progression. And neither do most strength trainers and coaches who are looking to improve someone's performance, not just stroke their ego with a loaded bar.

The assumption that just by virtue of doing a few magical exercises like squats that everything will work itself out is just plain wrong. While you use so called linear "progression" coupled with intensity cycling for months on end you see amplitude of movement decreasing, coordination decreasing, and you may also notice that the trainee becomes LESS able to correct technical mistakes. All this can be accompanied by a host of other problems. The other big problem is see with this type of training is it is MUNDANE and BORING. That in itself is a mark of bad programming in my book.

Linear progression…I love the lip service people give to these terms. SDT is linear. In what way can it be defined as non linear? The term linear refers to how the training is periodized. How it is "progressed" is the parameters used to add stimulus of some kind. SDT, just by itself is linear. We are not looking to train different or overlapping qualities or skill. Try again on that one.

I have no problem at all with a beginner simply adding some weight to the bar for a while in a simple "linear" way. I do have a problem with them being thrown under a bus by the insistence that they are supposed to "milk" this progress with a silly and inefficient intensity cycling scheme that has failure, in myriad ways, built into it.

Intensity cycling in itself, sucks. There is nothing more discouraging and unproductive than constantly having to back off you weights! Why would anyone want to train that way? I did it. I've run every kind of "5X5" you can imagine and it always got me worse off in the long run because of all the reasons I've discussed. There is on thing I never ask a trainee to do and that is to backtrack and play catch up! No wonder most people don't stick to training. Apply that to any other skill and ask how it sounds.

(That does not mean I never ask a trainee to lighten the bar but that I don't ask them to run over the same ground again. Everything is moving forward in some way. Not going back and getting a "do over". That's just going through the motions and getting it done. Getting it done is not good enough.)

But it is not intensity that is an issue with the beginner. To assume that all beginners will not progress unless they constantly back off intensity in a simple formulaic way is ridiculous. Usually it's volume that is the problem with the typical trainee.

Truthfully, however, I do not want to get into yet another analysis of this. The purpose of this article was not to show an alternative to another alternative. It was also not meant solely for beginners. It is pretty simple to sit down an make up a beginner's strength program. And we could do that with a handful of exercises using SDT and it would be more sustainable for a beginner and would actually consider quality not just weight on the bar.

However, the first way of progressing I mentioned is to add weight to the bar. There is nothing to suggest that a person cannot add weight to the bar a successive number of times. There is likewise, no reason to believe that the only efficient way to progress for a beginner is to add weight to the bar until they hit a wall and then play catchup after stripping the bar. It is beyond me how people can convince themselves that intentionally running into a wall, backing up, and running into it again, and then again, until some undetermined time comes when they decide the wall is coming up too fast, is efficient. To me, that is the definition of insanity.

Beyond that, though, you comments are assuming that I mean for people to train every exercises the same…I don't. I am not intending to just hand people a one size fits all cookie cutter and say, try not to hurt yourselves, kiddies! I am offering some parameters and means for people to apply some thought and experimentation to learn about how to create some sustained progress. Whats more, I am here waiting for people, if they would like help with any of this. That would include those people who would like to "just add 5 pounds to the bar every workout".


Follow us Twitter_32x32.png Facebook grunge icon by Lenka Meleakova

Last edited on 1262575109|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover By EricT + Show more
Unfold by EricTEricT, 1262040493|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Rhetorical Fallacies
EricTEricT 1262041857|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

With all that said I want to get into this "rhetorical question" thing. I love all the fallacies that come up and this is a big one.

You could call this begging the question. I think you could anyway, I'm not a professional logician. I mean if I were a Greek I'd be a Greek God not a Greek lawyer. Ok, so I'd be a slave, probably. But a totally kick ass slave.

I'll repeat the question: If a beginner can add 5 pounds to bar every workout, why should he ___?

That question uses the very argument it wishes to prove as an argument! By asking it, you haven't shown that this is the best way to progress or certainly that everyone can and should do it, you have simply assumed that. It's circular logic.

After that assumption and it's acceptance you can easily reason away all other arguments. For instance, it is implying that NOT adding 5 pounds to the bar every workout is always undesirable and always bad for a beginner. So any argument that doesnt assume that a beginner should do this is thrown down as "bad". It's all ludicrous and it has no authority because it stifles discussion by a rhetorical means.

Let me frame it a different way.

I want to sell you a program that will teach you, using ancient Kungfu secrets, to leap onto the roof of your house.

Now who wouldn't want to be able to leap onto a roof?

A sensible and skeptical man says, "I think a ladder is more likely to be successful".

And I say, "Why would you use a ladder, when you can leap up in one bound?" Therefore "proving" that my program is better than a plain old ladder.

Another rhetorical method that these cookie cutters use is the pairing of ideas so that one idea becomes synonymous with another idea that is not actually necessarily a parellel idea. For instance one that you see regarding the beginner training thing and just about everywhere else including technolodgy is "fast and efficient".

Usually, when you use this kind of pairing it is to emphasize an idea with two different ways or expressing the same emotion or general idea. This is how we are used to hearing it. For instance, when I say, "it's nice and cool out today", I could mean the same thing by just saying it's cool out or it's nice out. I don't necessarily have to mean it but to say it's nice AND it's cool, is just to provide rhetorical emphasis to the idea.

With fast and efficient you turn that around on people by making them assume that fast means efficient and efficient means fast. But it doesn't. The fastest way to add weight to the bar is not always the most efficient way to progress. The most efficient way to progress is not always the fastest way to add weight to the bar. As soon as I stop assuming that these things are not synonymous, I stop having unreasonable expectations about my training.

Progression in training could be compared to a car and it's fuel efficiency. The faster you make the car, the worse it's fuel efficiency. If you want a car to have top performance and the best fuel efficiency it can, you have to strike a balance. You also have to be specific about your goals.

If I were just to say I want the best performance and the best efficiency then I could simply argue that to me, performance is synonymous with efficiency. But performance is not a general thing…it is specific.

It's the same with training. In order to decide what is the most efficient way to increase performance you must first decide what you consider to be good performance and what is acceptable, in terms of a cost benefit analysis. Just piling weight on the bar every workout, with no cost benefit analysis, is not to me, the definition of performance, since there is no thought given to anything other than how much weight is on the bar.

Here is an old post on a similar vane:

http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-146557/kiss#post-446976


Follow us Twitter_32x32.png Facebook grunge icon by Lenka Meleakova

Last edited on 1262574800|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover By EricT + Show more
Unfold Rhetorical Fallacies by EricTEricT, 1262041857|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Linear Progression
EricTEricT 1262057667|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I guess I should get more into the notion of linear progression and what that means. First of all it has become nothing more than a term meant to apply to novice trainees for the first few months of strength training. That of itself makes it un-useful since you are basically making assumptions as to how novices can and should progress and then appropriating a term for that progression. If you believe that to be basic why not call it basic progression.

Basically linear progression is implying that if you looked at increases or improvements in performance, on a QUANTITATIVE basis, those improvements would more or less form a straight line.

When you measure performance quantitatively, you pick one measure of performance. In this case, weight on the bar.

Linear progression becomes a meaningless term over a career since ANY progression, when measured over a long enough time period, becomes more or less a straight line. I can't say a perfectly straight line so let's just assume that if you looked at it on a graph…the progress line would be tending in a general upward direction over time.

Mathematically, a "linear graph" is a graph with a straight line. That would mean that the increases make a consistent pattern. So, increase in weight on the bar of 5, 5, 5, 5, and so on would make a straight line if you plotted it on a graph. By telling you that linear progression is 'best' all that is really being said is that trying to make a perfectly straight line is best. I'm not kidding. That's really all there is to it. Now, of course this so called linear progression doe not really make a straight line unless you plotted it for a short period. It's essentially meaningless.

A line is a line and it does not have to be straight to still be a line. Yet another fallacy is calling straight lines "linear" and other lines "non-linear"! The terms themselves are silly. But anyway…we are not dealing with equations, we are dealing with strength progression.

No matter how you progress, the more you increase the period of time you are looking at, the straighter the line becomes. In other words, all the dips and wiggles smooth out over time. To sum it up…if progress wasn't "linear" it would not be "progress". The line would zigzag up down but never TEND toward a more or less straight line upwards.

So "linear progression" is a meaningless buzz word. All progression, in terms of a certain quality or number, is linear by the sheer fact that it is progression. The idea is that a beginner will make "tremendous" progress using linear progression and that in the long term this actually has an effect on that line graph I described.

Well, not only is the line formed using so-called linear progression and intensity cycling about as jagged a line as you can imagine all those jigs and jags, even if they have the line rising higher after a few months will not represent anything when the line is looked at over a longer term. And since this so-called novice training model only works under ideal conditions (which is assuming all things being perfect and no real cross training or skill work is involved) it is not a real training model but simply a training method with a "model" pinned on to it.

And what really tends to happen is that trainees begin to struggle their ass off to maintain the reps and sets and add weight and you see injuries cropping up even at the end of the first month sometimes or little nagging problems.

This begs the question, of course, of whether it makes sense at all to measure progress purely on a quantitative basis. And it does not and no trainer worth his paycheck would think so.

Yes, I know I've used "begging the question" in two different ways. The second way how most of us use it and the first way how about five logicians use it whose hobby is to recreate Ancient Greece on the weekends and dress up in togas.

Here are two charts showing an imaginary squat progression over ten weeks. The first one could be using an SDT type progression or any kind of slow steady progression. The second one is only adding weight to the bar and using intensity cycling.

I've been generous, to my mind, with the intensity cycling. I've made the overall progression, in terms of weight to be more than with the first progression. But notice the linear notion doesn't bear a lot of weight except for the fact that yes, it is a line.

Ten Week Squat Progression: SDT or other sustainable progression

ten-week-squat-progression.jpg

Ten week squat progression adding weight to the bar and intensity cycling

squat-intensity-cycling.jpg

So again, the mere fact that you add weight to the bar doesn't mean basic progression is "linear" as opposed to something else, it just means you progressed, at least in those quantitative terms.

Using linear to describe progression implies that it is possible to have non-linear progression. Which is like comparing strength training to quantum mechanics. It would mean:

1. That you could get something out of your training that was disproportionate to what you put in. Or your training could have NO EFFECT at all. Neither of which is possilbe.

2. It would mean that the body adapted in an unpredictable way…meaning simply that you could not plan training at all but simply watch the interesting and unexpected stuff that happens.

To be honest I think "linear" is just a word applied by coaches wishing to sound smart. It doesn't really define anything as distinct from something else. Linear periodization, although that is still a silly name, at least has a concrete definition.

In terms of how quantitative progress really looks, I think most will find the first example more esthetically pleasing.

I made the first one using PR's and the second one using weight added to the bar starting from zero. It's the same thing except I did it this way because I knew that the second method would produce a steeper line and thus, viewed simplistically, I'm still being generous to the intensity cycling by making it look faster in terms of "steeper" progress. This was to show how you can manipulate data. The two graphs are really showing a similar thing.

So at the end of 10 weeks, 30 pounds are added to the bar with SDT and 35 pounds with intensity cycling. Intensity cycling wins! I could have been more generous with that and made it look even better with a steeper hypothetical curve. I just wasn't feeling THAT generous.

Intensity cycling wins over 10 weeks, in this scenario. If you want to look at just the starting and ending number. I happen to know that trainees DO have minds, however, and that steep up and down lines, in terms of real world training, corresponds with a steep up and down state of readiness. The only way to make a trainee feel ready for that kind of constant let down is to stamp your feet, bang your fist on the table and make them believe. At least until the next workout.

Here are some charts, however, showing progression over a more realistic time frame. Thirty weeks. A bit over half a year.

30 week squat progression using weight added to bar and intensity cycling

intensity-cycling-30-weeks.jpg

Oops. Intensity cycling stopped working. Couldn't make it to 30 days. Assume that after a point of a couple of weeks of no progress and having already set the weights back a few times the trainee is left scratching his head wondering what to do. Maybe he can now try SDT. But the question is, at the end of 30 days, has he progressed more by virtue of having used intensity cycling.

You don't have to answer that because it is a rhetorical question. Tricked you with rhetoric! You can't answer that because it assumes knowledge about all sorts of things that you don't have. All you have is a bunch of numbers. All anyone is ever given to support this type of training theory is a bunch of numbers. You have know way of knowing how the trainee will respond to what comes next because you know nothing of his state and how the training up till now has actually affected him. He most likely looks like a blob with a barbell attached to it at some point.

This is a graph of steady sustained progression which doesn't hit failure, doesn't ever dial back the weights, has at least a bit more interesting parameters, and, actually thinks about quality along the way:

30 week squat progression
progression-30-weeks.jpg

Now, if I were to make another chart that covered a long enough period of time and I combined that first 30 weeks of intensity cycling with a whole imaginary training career..I could eventually make all those dips and rebounds start to disappear. When viewed in this very clinical, if not completely scientific way, the bumps get smoother and smoother. That applies to the first few months of ANY training. The numbers fade. It also applies to any one period of time during a training career.

And that is why we do NOT measure the first few months of progress in terms of NUMBERS alone! All such progress, at any one period of time, is a snapshot. It is not representative over a career of more efficient or less efficient training since it takes nothing else into consideration, including what is acceptable given a cost benefit analysis.

This whole analysis is ridiculous on the face of it…because the terminology is ridiculous. Within the terms I have set forth in this article, if a trainee simply progresses by loading the bar he is using single progression. The affect that loading the bar will have as opposed to adding volume, etc. will depend on his training status at that time.

To sum it up, the idea that it matters, over any meaningful time period to have progression form a 'straight line' is silly. Because it NEVER WILL. Straight line or 'linear progression' will happen only for very short periods of time in a training career. And the more aggressive the linear loading is, the longer more 'regressive lines' you have (lines that go down).


Follow us Twitter_32x32.png Facebook grunge icon by Lenka Meleakova

Last edited on 1267717230|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover By EricT + Show more
Unfold Linear Progression by EricTEricT, 1262057667|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Re: Linear Progression
LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1262572471|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Great read.

You should post these as articles as SDT Part 2 and 3 if you haven't already.

Unfold Re: Linear Progression by LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan, 1262572471|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
EricTEricT 1262575721|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thanks Nate. I will blog on and call attention to all this later but I think it's not exactly related to SDT as such.

These are all very general arguments and were meant here not so much to defend SDT because as a concept I don't think it needs to be defended but to rebut the idea that there is a "method" that is automatically more efficient than SDT. OR any other sound and reasonable means to progress.

It was also meant to show that most of the arguments for so called linear progression are rhetorical ones.

Intensity cycling itself has become a more or less dogmatic principle on the bodybuilding forums thanks to institutionalized 5x5's. That I haven't quite tackled enough but to be frank to have to continually backtrack on the tired old ideas that I rejected years ago and people smarter than me never even gave the time of day gets a little tiring. As strength trainers we want to move forward but unfortunately to do that we have to deal with those who have grown rooted to the spot but thanks to force of personality and whatever combination of circumstances have a lot of influence. In a perfect world dinosaurs go extinct, so to speak. In the real word we have to slay them.

Not to sound bitter because I love what I do.

There is a saying about lawyers:

If you have the facts, pound on the facts.
If you have the law, pound on the law.
If you don't have either, pound on the table.

That is how most ideas win over in this industry.


Follow us Twitter_32x32.png Facebook grunge icon by Lenka Meleakova

Last edited on 1262577208|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover By EricT + Show more
Unfold by EricTEricT, 1262575721|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
More on Linear Progression
EricTEricT 1263073735|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

There is more on linear progression here: Misconceptions Abound. In that post I discuss it from another perspective…i.e no charts!


Follow us Twitter_32x32.png Facebook grunge icon by Lenka Meleakova

Unfold More on Linear Progression by EricTEricT, 1263073735|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover
Add a New Comment
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
<title>Above Article Ads</title>
</head>
 
<body>
<a href="http://twitter.com/home/?status=RT+@GUStrength+Strength+Training+w/+Single,+Double,+&+Triple+Progression+http://bit.ly/32nj8J" target="_blank"><img src="http://groundupstrength.wdfiles.com/local--files/start/Twitter_32x32.png" alt="twitter" /></a> 
 
<!-- Badge ends -->
</body>
 
</html>


Bookmark and Share

Unless otherwise stated, the content of this page is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 License