Why do you think I have that 10 different supps mentality also… All I have is my whey and casein / or a blend with some Fish Oils, A Multivitamin, And pre and post training I add some BCAA's and Creatine - Pretty much basic if you ask me.. And I am sure even you have these much - maybe not the BCAA's and creatine but still.
I have 3 supplements: Whey, Fish Oils and Multivitamins. Thats it.
That list is fine. I had a different impression. My apologies.
Why I have so many supps (read shakes) is that I am not allowed to eat non - vegetarian food at home, and I cannot possibly eat outside everyday - Too expensive to eat at a clean place outside.
Yes, I forget that you are a vegetarian. You will need this stuff.
I say this time and again, but please please please - do not be so presumptuous that I will not listen - I feel that you guys feel so a lot - I don't know why.. but I do. TBH, I do listen to somethings and somethings I don't - And somethings I will just take time to understand - Hell - you might tell me one thing 10 times before I actually realize you're right and it can work that way - but that doesn't mean you can put me down (I'm not saying this is what you want to do but this is what it translates to) by saying that I just won't listen and I have this or that notion in my head.
I have no way of knowing what you do listen to and what you do not. I understand that you will not accept everything right off the bat, however, I am always guessing at what you ARE doing (of what you are supposed to be doing) and what you're NOT doing. You should just tell me "I'm listening to this and not to that". And I'm not gonna repeat something 10 times. I do not force or try to push my point. This is your training and what you do is on you.
A lot of this is also because we keep discussing things in the gym and then something else comes out in the posts here and then it becomes hard to figure things out.
First off, because you are on the GUS website as a user, you are training as per GUS philosophies. I am not a certified GUS trainer (there is nothing of the sort whatsoever) so my advice is advice from ME - not from Eric. And ERIC = GUS.
So I think a better way for me not to be guessing what you are adhering to, what you are still thinking about and what you have already decided not to adhere to, is for you to be honest about what you're doing. I am not putting you down whatsoever. If you feel that is what I am doing, I apologize but in my defense: there is no transparency in what I say and what you actually do so it is hard to perceive anything.
Yes - Lets hope so… I am starting understand what you mean by the getting strong fast thing.
Yes. You should not get strong too fast. Devraj is also in a similar boat: his forearms/knees are in the same boat. But this can be overcome once you allow your training to settle down - for you to get a better foothold. However, go see a doctor to rule out all other possibilities.
Even if I did not have a background with K11 - I would still have complained because I really feel I cannot handle it.. I did not say that it is rule not to do it on consecutive days or multiple times - This is more of a personal thing related to how I feel.
Your basic layout is as such:
Tue = DL
Wed = SQ
Fri = OHSQ
Sat = Box SQ
The focus right now is for you to be able to squat properly - "quality" of reps is the issue.
You are having a problem doing Squats after Deads because your numbers are dropping. What you do not get are 2 important factors:
One: If you switch OHSQ and SQ, then you will be attacking a new lift - a lift which requires your attention and focus right after Deadlifts. You know how you felt after Deadlifts? All beat up? Imagine trying to learn something brand new feeling like that. Instead, you do some heavy stuff on an exercise you are already familiar with and then take a day off to make sure that when you do have to learn something new you are "fresh".
Two: Whether you like it or not, your numbers - maybe even ALL your numbers WILL drop from where they are. Why? Because you're doing something you've never really done before and it might take a little bit of a lag period for you to catch up. Is that a bad thing? Yes and No. Yes because you can be number obsessed and spin your wheels. OR, No, you can take this as a learning exercise and reap the absolute most out of it.
There is something else I want to add, and this is NOT me putting you down, I know you want to ask questions and have everything laid out for you in clear cut answers. BUT, at Ground Up Strength, we do NOT like to talk talk talk. We like to actually DO and then we talk about it. So unless you actually DO this, you have no idea - not just you, neither do I nor anybody else, can say with absolute certainty whether it will work or not.
There have been progression schemes Eric has laid out for me in the past with my Deadlifts which have never been all that beneficial to me as compared to others. Thats fine. This is normal. It is not the end of the world.
EVEN if this template fails and you do not get better at Squatting neither do you get stronger, it is not the end of the world: we just realize what you can and cannot handle. And unless you actually attempt it, neither do you.
So don't obsess over explanations. You can ask questions, but for most things, actually doing it makes a world of a difference.
This is really important. If a doctor gives you the okay to do anything, then its just a matter of time to wait for your body to adjust to the workload and volume.