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"Fear is your best friend or your worst enemy. It's like fire. If you can control it, it can cook for you; it can heat your house. If you can't control it, it will burn everything around you and destroy you. If you can control your fear, it makes you more alert, like a deer coming across the lawn."
!~-_-Journey To Heavyweight Champion Of The World 2010 Edition-_-~!
LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1262387535|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

January 5th 2009

Now
Stats:
Age: 17
Height: 6'4" (6'6"in shoes)
Weight: 195lbs (Eating 3800 calories)

Before:
October 1st
Age 17
6'4"
185lbs

Lifts (Before on top. After on bottom, all lifts are from when this thread orginally started)
Deadlifts:
235 5x2
255 5 x 5

Front Squats
115 5 x 3
145 5 x 5-7

Bench Press
Now:
???
115 3 x 5

Back Squat
200lbs 3 x 5
225lbs 3 x 6-8

OH Squat
Learned movement
95lbs 3 x 6-8

OH Press
80lbs 5 x 4 reps
100lbs 3 x 4-7 reps

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1262732108|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

^ I guess that didnt work the way I intended. Basically the higher numbers are now, while the lower numbers are what I started with. With that said.

January 4th 2010

Deadlift Warm Up

Deadlift work set
300 1 x 2

Note: I was next to a mirror, and i started to notice my back doing the same thing my Uncle said it was. So I lower the weight and ask a friend to watch if it does it again

275
1 x 1
Note: He notices it too, he suggests I wait for the Powerlifting Coach and ask him what he thinks.

Does another set of

255
1 x 2.

The coach shows up, I do

255
1 x 3

He said that my lower back was in perfect posistion that just my upperback was rounding a bit and that I shouldnt worry about it. He said something along the lines of, thats just how some people can deadlift, others people can do near perfect form all the time and that what I what doing was normal. I asked him if i should lower the weight. He said "You don't have too, your lower back was perfect". He also recommended that since there is a Powerlifting meet comming up Feb 11, That I should do 5 x 5 for the next few weeks, then 5 x 3, Then test my max and a week before the meet, I don't lift at all.

So then I did

255lbs
4sets 5 reps.

Then I did my mobility drills and side planks. And I didn't have time for front squats. And Powerlifting was canceled today. So I'll fit them in Thursday if I can.

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EricTEricT 1262787091|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Wow…when do you graduate?

I'm in a position here where it's hard to know the best thing to do.

In any case I need to see these deadlifts for myself. Maybe you could load up your bar at home with whatever you have. I don't know how much weight you have but maybe if you put everything you got on the bar. And set it on phonebooks and magazines or whatever to get the bar to the right height. That should be around 8 and 3/4 inches off the floor I think. And make sure the bar is more or less level (which is why I suggested magazines to use to level up the two ends).

It's funny because Jamie Hale just sent me a study where someone did a kinematic analysis of the deadlift versus squat (to see if the squat helps the deadlift) but they did it during competitions. And concluded that the deadlift was primarily a senquential lift. Which is complete bullshit but if you looked at only competitions you might get that idea. The funny thing is these guys thought the lifters "meant" to do that. So my first reaction was, WTF? And here you ask tell me, my hips rose first and my back rounded. Obviously there is a difference sometimes between what happens and what you are trying to make happen!

In general you haven't been doing enough volume on your deadlifts. You've been doing the minimum of volume and adding on weight so that it looks at this point as if 300 represents close to your max ability. 5x5 is a little much for deadlifts and 5x5 reps are not "magical". But you should be working with more volume. Once I know what is going on I will make more specific suggestions.

There is no reason why most every rep you do should have your back rounded. Your height is part of it but there is never an excuse not to improve. I don't understand your coaches suggestion that "some people can't do it with good form" or whatever". I don't even know what that means. But that would have led me to the question "Why do I need a coach, then?" lol


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_Wolf__Wolf_ 1262797523|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

^^^ What type of volume do you think he should do, Eric? I was thinking something like SDT Progression given his current relative max of 300.

Week 1 = 255 x 3 x 2 + 275 x 1
Week 2 = 255 x 4 x 2 + 275 x 2
Week 3 = 255 x 5 x 2 + 275 x 2 + 285 x 1
Week 4 = 255 x 6 x 3 + 275 x 2 + 300 x 1

I dunno….I was thinking if he started with something relatively easy and used that as a base to progress by adding reps to each set - sort of how you had me do with 385. I used 385 for quite some time:
Weeks 1-4: Consolidation cycle using 385
Weeks 5-8: Tried to do more and more reps with 385. Started off with 385x4x2 and ended up with 385x6x3

What do you think?

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1262830803|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I graduate early June. The plan is too get a job during the summer to pay for gym memberships where I will be able to take videos. Then. my post secondary plans are not yet set in stone.

I agree Eric, I didn't want my back to round either at all, so thats why I asked. I should be able to take some videos at home, I'll have those by the weekend.

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EricTEricT 1262798953|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Well I just realized what happened is that I had told Nate to practice deadlifts honeymoon style using 3 reps or so and then I got to busy to keep up with it and he has just went with that and stuck to these very low volumes, etc…

That's why I need you guys to help me out here and why I need you (Nate) to communicate with them when they say something to you.

So anyway that's all more advanced than he needs. There's not point to it right now. He needs more exposure and he needs to build up more buffering mass for the real heavy loads to come.

I would start with a comfortable base volume of around 3x5 reps and then allow up to 8 reps and 4 to 5 sets in terms of volume. The first week or two should be spend actually honing in on the weight rather than just picking a weight.

But right now I want to see what is going on with these deads.


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1262831334|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Do you mean 3 to 5 reps or, 3 sets 5 reps when you say

I would start with a comfortable base volume of around 3x5 reps

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_Wolf__Wolf_ 1262868600|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I am pretty sure Eric meant 3 sets of 5 reps.

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EricTEricT 1262872477|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Yes, 3 sets. I always write sets first reps second. You want the base volume to be concrete. So while you would use a range of reps while you progress your "base" would be a set volume of sets and reps. That way, when you go back to that base volume but with more weight on the bar you've progressed. Of course, if you do MORE volume with more weight than what you started with that's progressions as well, lol. But you need a benchmark you can hang your hat on and that is easy to proceed from.

One of the things about SDT is that if you start with a moderate volume, and then progress in whatever way which includes adding sets and reps, you always have that option of dropping down the volume to the base volume while adding weight. So that gives you a built in natural deload plus representing a milestone. And then you can proceed again.


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1262916974|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

One of the things about SDT is that if you start with a moderate volume, and then progress in whatever way which includes adding sets and reps, you always have that option of dropping down the volume to the base volume while adding weight. So that gives you a built in natural deload plus representing a milestone. And then you can proceed again.

Very true.

But for the 3 x 5. Can the fourth and fifth sets be higher weight but lower volume? or should I keep the weight the same?

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EricTEricT 1262966216|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Well don't do stepped sets just to do stepped sets. That is, everything should be fairly loose until you are in there doing it.

Now lets imagine a situation.

You got 235 on the bar and you have a base volume of 3x5.

So you get in there and you do:

235 x 5 x 1 set

You could have added reps to that but while you were doing it you felt like it was just TOO light, right? So you stop at 5, and add weight.

So you do 240 x 5 x 1 and that is demanding and fairly close to failure. Take a rest…

240 x 6 x 1 (this time you new you had 5 more in you but you surprised yourself with a 6th rep).

That would be a fairly typical scenario and just the kind of thing you'd expect to happen. Since you started with 3x5 but then added weight and added one rep, technically that is double progression. There is no rule that says you have to do it with every set. In fact there are no rules as long as you progress.

In fact, as soon as you impose rules it stops being what I've described and starts being a "program" right?

Heck, you could add a set of two if you felt you had that. Still legit.

For the next workout you might start with 240 and go from there. So you can always add weight…at any time. And you can always add reps…at any time. And you can always add sets….at any time. It's really a reactive way of training. Best not to have any more than a loose plan of attack.

On the other hand, with a three rep set I wouldn't drop the reps down on the last set, or the last two sets, just to add weight. Better to keep with at least the base volume and add to that while possible adding weight.

Because when you dip the volume…what is likely to happen is you just slow down progression. Depending on how much the volume drops, the added weight may not represent that much progression. That is why the idea of having a base volume is important. Look at it this way…it you can do 235 for 15 reps, is it really such a big deal to do 240 for say, 10 reps? What happens next workout? You dip the volume again? Or you hit 240 for 15 maybe?

Let's imagine two scenarios, each representing two workouts. Two workouts don't mean much, of course, but for our purpose of description it's better to keep it simple:

First scenario:

Workout One: (weight x reps x sets)

235 x 5 x 1 (not too hard, not too easy)

235 x 7 x 1 (got easier….)

235 x 7 x 1

Added reps to two sets…single progression

Workout Two:

235 x 8 x 1

240 x 5 x 1

240 x 5 x 1

double progression

Second Scenario (your scenario of adding weight to last sets but dropping volume)

235 x 5 x 1

240 x 3 x 1

245 x 2 x 1

First of all..it doesn't seem like a big deal but from the first scenario the volume has dropped by almost 50%! Half. Now for a very advanced trainee…and I mean very advanced…adding 5 and then 10 pounds to the bar can be a huge deal in itself. But a very advanced trainee wouldn't have been ABLE to do it and he wouldn't really be training this way with primary movements that much.

Workout Two A:

240 x 5 x 1 (oops…shit hard)

235 x 4 x 1

235 x 6 x 1

Not really as good as the first scenario. Why? Dropping the volume back helps the most after you have built up more volume and built up a bit more fatigue. Best case scenario is you've even added weight and volume. Then once you drop back to base volume, even with a little added weight, you are, in effect, getting a break.

But if your volume is low to begin with, dropping it lower just to add weight may not be an advantage. It's possible of course, for it to be just the right thing to do. Say you haven't been getting your sleep or eating quite right. That little break on volume may be just the thing, even with added weight, to spur you on to new heights. But it's not predictable and it makes basic progression too difficult to allow such fluctuation in volume and intensity. I.E. it starts to resemble weekly undulating periodization and for a beginner that is just silly. Well I think it's silly for most anybody, lol, but that's just my humble opinion.

Or if you did in a very straght-forward fashion it would start to look like short linear periodization. Again…not my cup of tea.

So to sum it up…try to maintain at least the base volume. Dipping a little below that is perfectly ok sometimes but do not make a habit of dropping volume to add weight. Not with SDT that is.


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1263241039|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

So basically its subjective to how one is feeling. As long as I get around 15 reps in the first 3 reps (being the minimum). The weight needs to be consistent unless it is greater or equal to what one starts with on the first set. Any set you add to the base is progress, any extra reps you add on the base sets and further sets if you choose to proceed is progress, and any weight you can add to any sets while maintaing the basic 3 sets of 5 reps is also progress.

I think im understanding it more each more i read it.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1262831997|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Wednesday January 6th 2009

(Gym was opened after school)

Front Squats
Warm up

145lbs
2 x 5
1 x 8

OH Press
105lbs
1 x 4
100lbs
1 x 5
1 x 7

Inverted Rows
3 x 7-8

Pullups
1 Pullup with a ton of effort

Assisted Pullups (Other person holds my legs and assists yet making sure not enough so that i can struggle)
2 sets till failure (Holding the top posistion at the very last rep then slowly decending and letting go)

Hanging leg Raises
Side Planks

Mobility Drills

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1262917441|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thursday Januray 7th 2010 (Lol at my putting 2009 in my previous posts)

Back Squat

230lbs
1 x 5
1 x 5
1 x 7

250
1 x 2

Didn't want to attempt OH Squats do to me working upperbody yesterday, So I will do them over the weekend with vids of this and deadlift.

Pushups
1 x 13
1 x 7
1 x 3

SG Ham Raises
1 x 12
1 x 10
1 x 5

Mobility Drills.

Notes: I had a pretty intense game of two on two (basketball) before hand, as well as 21 and One on One at lunch (Not normally I play this much basketball anymore, but im pretty competitive). I didn't think it affected my workout too much though, although I was sweating pretty hard beforehand.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1263176641|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Sunday Jan 10th 2010

OH Squats and Deadlift videos

OH Squat
90lbs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFF0vcOp6jY
1x3
95lbs
1 x 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgvUMZpHvQ0
1 x 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC7YOD3aYsM
106lbs
I think I had 4 or 5 reps before… well just watch >.< http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxo5YcsGb0o

Deadlift videos
(I might have had the bar elevated too much but the problem is that the big black weights you see at the end, have a hole bigger than what the bar is, and if i were to put it on books or magazines, it would surely roll off. But it might be enough to show you what im doing_

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdj_wGQRu0U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC6npUcKYPE

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EricTEricT 1263217347|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Second deadlift link doesn't work. Was there more? I could use a few more reps to be sure. The bar does look high but I think I can tell enough. It's a little bit of a setup problem and a little bit of a technique problem. Looks pretty typical to me but nothing is happening that is alarming. Needs to be sorted out so that you can continue to progress and it doesn't become a problem. Little problems that don't seem like a big deal at first in an exercise are like building a 1000 foot tower. At the bottom - the beginning - of the tower, you might be just the tiniest bit off plumb. Just a minute little angle. But at the top you have a big old leaning tower that looks like it's about to fall over (check with Joe on that analogy, lol).


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JoeWeirJoeWeir 1263232585|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

At the bottom - the beginning - of the tower, you might be just the tiniest bit off plumb. Just a minute little angle. But at the top you have a big old leaning tower that looks like it's about to fall over (check with Joe on that analogy, lol).

After much thought I have verified that the analogy is correct.

Just to drive it home. What do you get when you take a leaning tower, and put a bunch of weight on the top? A busted tower is what you get. Don't become a busted tower, Nate. :)


The strength trainee says "Why sacrifice intensity when I can sacrifice volume"
The bodybuilder says "Why sacrifice intensity when I can sacrifice form"

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1263239758|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Is the tower a metaphor for my OH Squat fail. All i remember is that the bar may have been going backwards, and i my shoulder was twitching, I didn't even remember my leg kicking out till i watched the video.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1263239974|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

How do we go about fixing it, it might be difficult that you cant see my actual worksets though, atleast not for awhile. I wonder if I can have somebody hold my camera at the PL meet.

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EricTEricT 1263335545|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

So [SDT] basically its subjective to how one is feeling. As long as I get around 15 reps in the first 3 reps (being the minimum). The weight needs to be consistent unless it is greater or equal to what one starts with on the first set. Any set you add to the base is progress, any extra reps you add on the base sets and further sets if you choose to proceed is progress, and any weight you can add to any sets while maintaing the basic 3 sets of 5 reps is also progress.

I think im understanding it more each more i read it.

Yeah you're getting it. Except "feeling" isn't really the right word. If we say feeling it's like giving people permission to walk into the gym and say "I'm not feeling it today…I think I won't do anything." OR, "I feel like shit, I won't progress today." Something like that. Those days really do happen of course but the way you feel at the beginning is not necessarily the harbinger of a bad workout.

There isn't a perfect word but a better one is "react". So it is how you are reacting to initial sets that determine how you proceed. Or, how you are progressing. Hey, there's a concept. Using how you are progressing to determine how to progress.

Other than that, the only thing I can add at this point is that 3x5 reps is just the base we settled on for you, given your experience and comfort level. It could be a bit more or a bit less. All depends on what came before and how you arrived at the base.


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EricTEricT 1263336230|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

How do we go about fixing it, it might be difficult that you cant see my actual worksets though, atleast not for awhile. I wonder if I can have somebody hold my camera at the PL meet.

Here are a couple things from Kanishk's journal..read past the individual posts, it all overlaps. Just pay attention to the general instructions I give not the specific interactions.

http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-172571/zero-s-zesty-zoo#post-593681

http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-172571/zero-s-zesty-zoo#post-639744

There is a link to a post at the gustrength blog in there somewhere as well which is chock full of info.

Is the tower a metaphor for my OH Squat fail. All i remember is that the bar may have been going backwards, and i my shoulder was twitching, I didn't even remember my leg kicking out till i watched the video.

No biggie. You handled it. Take the socks off! Just go barefoot or wear Chuck Taylors or even One Starts from Target (or similar). Or use some kind of grippy socks. I just realized you may be wearing different footwear between school and home…or wearing shoes at school but not at home. That can throw you off a lot. Need to be consistent in what footwear you lift in.

I can see you are working the HELL out of your OH squat depth. Good job!


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1264029783|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Alright, Im going to add some Romanian deadlfits and Kneeling Squats. A question though, should I let them replace deadlifts for a few weeks or should I it in?

Editing in for remembering

1. Stand with your shins about an inch from the bar with about a hip width stance or slightly wider depending on what works best for you.

2. Look down at the barbell and imagine that there is a vertical line coming up through it so that the line of the barbell is part of an imaginary plane. The barbell and this imaginary line is your reference point or benchmark. You will use this to orient your body to. Remember this if for visualization purposes only.

3. After you grab the bar you will bring your shoulders in front of the bar so that the imaginary line intersects you scapula. In other words, the bar is in line with your scapula. Keeping your shoulders forward of the bar in this postion bring your chest up and shoulders back and locked. Scapula retracted.

4. Hips/Butt: Now that your feet are in the right place and your shoulders are in the right place the trick is to get your hips as close to this imaginary LINE as possible while maintaining your shoulder position. You are NOT bring your hips down toward the bar..you are bringing them forward toward the line coming up through the bar. WITHOUT moving your shoulders back.

All the while the chest must stay OUT and the shoulders back. The lower back must remain in it's tightly set natural arch

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1263351894|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

January 12th 2009

Deadlift

265lbs
4 x 5
1 x 4

Front Squats
145lbs
3 x 5
1 x 8

Felt really tired, going to get to bed earlier tonight.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1263514803|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Wednesday January 13th

OH Press
105lbs
3 x 5

Pushups
1 x 13
1 x 7
1 x 3

Gonna try some weighted pushups next time.

Inverted Rows (Feet not planted flat)
1 x 8
1 x 6
1 x 4

Pullups
1

Assisted Pullups
1 x 10

Static holds at top
Twice. Hurts the hands even with chalk haha!.

Side Planks
3 x Each Side.

Mobility Drills.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1263514983|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thursday January 14th 2009

Back Squats

240lbs
1 x 4

235lbs
1 x 5
1 x 6

Back felt pretty sore. Probobly with the added volume days on deadlifts recommended by the coach. It just felt sore and a little funny on the way down while squatting. I wore a belt my last set just so I could complete the squats. It agrivated my back a little more afterwards so I decided to take things lightly. I could barely do any SG Ham Raises so I just did some mobility drills and called it a day.

Back feels fine now.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1263864385|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Sunday January 27th 2010

OH SQUAT
100lbs x 5

OH SQUAT 100lbs x 6

106lbs x 6

Monday January 18th 2010

Deadlifts
255lbs
3 x 5
1 x 4
265
1 x 4

Front Squats
155lbs
1 x 2

145lbs
1 x 2
1 x 4
1 x 5

Core Excercise other than side plank, forget the name of it. Will post it.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1263952272|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Tuesday January 19th 2010

OH Press
105lbs
1 x 4
100lbs
1 x 5
1 x 4

Additional 1 x 3

Pullups
None

Static Holds at top posistion
Static Holds at bottom position
Pushups in between (didn't really count, i think i managed 11 my first set, but i felt pretty drained in between the static holds, did four sets)

And I just did all the mobility drills to make sure I wasn't missing any of them.

I got their late because I had to work with my english partners on my debate, so i didnt do Inverted Rows, forgot core excercise. Will respond to posts above soon!.

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_Wolf__Wolf_ 1264141626|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I just saw your OH Squat videos…man…what an improvement!!! Major props to you, man!

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1264449685|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thanks Anuj!

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EricTEricT 1264178327|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Alright, Im going to add some Romanian deadlfits and Kneeling Squats. A question though, should I let them replace deadlifts for a few weeks or should I it in?

I think you must have read more of Kanishk's journal than I meant for you to. I don't think you have too much need of Romanians or Kneeling squats yet.

For a supplement I suggest just hip extensions for you. That is what most people call back extensions. You could put those in at the end of the last workout of the week. 3 sets or so of 10 to 12 to start.


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1264449649|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Alright, will do!.

Just a quick update from last Thursday

Thusday, January 21st 2010

OH Squat

100lbs
1 x 6

105lbs
1 x 6
1 x 7

110lbs
2 x 6 or 7

Back Squat

235lbs
1 x 5
1 x 5
1 x 4

Additional 1 x 3

Inverted Rows

4 sets till failure

Pullups
Could not get one. I believe I did half a dozen static holds from the top posistion and did a few at the bottom pulling myself up like as much as I can (would have only been an inch or something).

Then I wen't through all the mobility drills being as it was the middle of the week

Did pushups again forgetting that I did them and static holds again (Forgot my journal, studying for exam stress haha!).

Powerlifting was canceled today do to poor road conditions.

EH!

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EricTEricT 1264534444|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I'm not sure of your exact plan for pullups. I know that you are also using the graviton machine. But the inverted rows and partials should be done on separate days. The idea is not to fight fatigue from one or the other but to do as much as you can with one.

I'd recommend that the assisted pullups be used after partials to finish up and the inverted rows be done by themselves on a separate day.

It looks like here that you tried to do pullups after inverted rows. If that is so I don't know why you'd expect to get one!


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1264712961|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Tuesday January 26th 2010

Deadlifts
275lbs
5 x 5

Front Squats
135 x 5
145 x 4
145 x 4

Front Squats feel a bit different, kinda like im not doing them the same way.

That excercise where you have a ball and you hold it in front of you while your sitting down while moving it left and right. Its a core excercise. I did that a few times.

Wednesday January 27th 2010

OH Press
106lbs
3 x 5
1 x 6

Decided to try bench. Just cause there is a competition on February 11th. Apparently we are not lifting the week before to avoid injury and fatigue for the lift.

135lbs
1 x 2

115lbs
2 x 5

Then there was no way I was going to try pullups as there would have been almost no point. So I did a set of 5 pushups and i was pretty fatigued so I just went over most of my mobility drills (for all the days) and shot hoops for a few hours. Since this is exam week. I've been shooting hoops the past 3 days after exams and after lifting.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1265057393|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

February 1st 2010

Powerlifting Comp next week.
The team is maxing out Thursday.

Did the workout i missed last week today.

Back Squats
235lbs
4 x 5

OH Squats
105lbs
3 x 5
110lbs
1 x 4

SG Ham Raises
3 x 6-8

Didn't want to do too much because I am maxing out Thursday. Then we aren't going to lift until after the comp.

Did all if not most of my mobility drills

Sorry for not being on the site as much, exams ended today :)

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1265570753|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Sorry for the lack of updates.

Maxed out on Thursday my lifts were

160 Bench
290 Squat (Can do more)
355 Deadlift (probably can do more).

Just taking it easy until the comp, Then we go back to lifting again

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_Wolf__Wolf_ 1265571891|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

^^^ Record the comp.

What have your increases been over the last few months?

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1265579884|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I will try to record the comp, it should be alllowed, i'll bring my camera in case.

Here are what my lifts were from when i started till January 1st (October on top, January on bottom)

My progress has been basically this:

Ex: Lift
October
January
Now

Deadlifts:
235 5x2
255 5 x 5
275 5 x 5

Front Squats
115 5 x 3
145 5 x 5-7
Front Squat has gone down a little, trying to work out form again

Bench Press
Now:
???
115 3 x 5

Back Squat
200lbs 3 x 5
225lbs 3 x 6-8
235lbs 4 x 5

OH Squat
Learned movement
95lbs 3 x 6-8
105-110lbs for sets and reps

OH Press
80lbs 5 x 4 reps
100lbs 3 x 4-7 reps
110lbs for reps after comp is what im going for.

What are your guys' opinions of my progress so far?. Im not sure if i should be eating more or that I can (at 3800 calories). Sleep has been not very consistent, working on that.

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EricTEricT 1265581762|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

It's fine. 5x5 is a lot for deadlifts and that will color your progress on everything else. It takes a lot out of you and that kind of volume is not usually recommended. You coach, like others, seems to think 5x5 is like waving a magic wand. It's fine for you to do it if you can maintain pretty good quality and not get bogged down but that's probably why your front squats went down.


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1266098300|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

that's probably why your front squats went down.

Makes sense

Videos From The Comp

260lbs Squat

280lbs Squat

295lbs Squat (No video, was not difficult at all)

I only have one video from Bench but it was my highest

155lbs Bench

One video from the Deadlift but it was my highest

340lbs Deadlift

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EricTEricT 1266099348|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Good going, Nate!


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1266099506|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Good going, Nate!

lifts were good?

I think my deadlift might need some work, slight back rounding and i think i was raising my hips faster than i was lifting.

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EricTEricT 1266100363|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

It's a competition. I'm not going to rate you on technique. You were going for it. For deadlifts hips-first is kinda typical for a competition where you're at the outermost edge of your ability. If I had my druthers you wouldn't be competing so early on but you are and that is how it is.

Yes, you were pretty rounded. It's a compensation to turn the deadlift into a sequential rather than simultaneous extension movement. You should not really be training with that sort of weight and you need to make sure that you have plenty of tolerance for the loads leading up to it. Just don't do it during training too much, in other words. I think it was a great effort and a great lift. If you did the same thing on a regular basis during training I'd be saying something different!

It's funny because Jamie Hale just sent me a study on a kinematic analysis someone did of deadlifts versus squats (to see if squats helped the deadlift..which they don't really) but they did it DURING competition. So they concluded that the deadlift was mostly a sequential lift and explained how it was two different styles..the high hip and the low hip, yada yada. Which is complete bullshit but if you watched only competitions you might get the idea that the deadlift was not a simultaneous lift. My first reaction was WTF? And here you tell me that your hips rose first and your back rounded. Obviously there is a difference sometimes between what happens and what we try to make happen!

I thought the squats were great. I can tell you that that wide spaced grip is not helping you and there is no reason to grasp the bar that way, even with a low bar placement, except to imitate 300 pound deadlifters who have no mobility at the shoulders. The lifts were great and I'm not saying a different grip would have made some huge difference but you should bring the hands in toward your shoulders and have the elbows more forward. This will aid in extension and help you lift more, in the long run.

But again, you made great lifts. You didn't get hurt. And despite the hip first back rounded deads you looked strong and in control and most of the rounding was higher up. Great job.


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1266104696|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Well the competition was a qualifier for the provincials that i believe are in April. All we had to do was lift the bar basically to qualify but it was my first one so I wanted to try it out.

I thought the squats were great. I can tell you that that wide spaced grip is not helping you and there is no reason to grasp the bar that way, even with a low bar placement, except to imitate 300 pound deadlifters who have no mobility at the shoulders.

Wide grip on the deadlift or squat?

Thanks for the critique Eric!

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Wide grip on the deadlift or squat?

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1266695197|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Finally Got Back into the gym on Thursday. Almost a two week layoff. So I didn't want to push too hard and just get back into the routine of things but I was very pleased for the most part

Thursday February 18th 2010

Deadlifts

275lbs 1 x 3
295lbs 1 x 2
280lbs 1 x 2
280lbs 1 x 1
275lbs 1 x 3

Front Squats

155lbs 3 x 5
165lbs 1 x 5

Pretty big increase I think for being off for that amount of time

Side Planks

2 sets on each side for 30+ seconds

OH Press:
95lbs 1 x 3
110lbs 1 x 2
105lbs 1 x 5
95lbs 1 x 2
95lbs 1 x 4

Probably went a little overboard, but I wanted to finish with a good set.

Mobility Drills (Went through them all since I was didn't workout for that amount of time)

February 19th 2010

Squat
245lbs 3 x5
245lbs 1 x 8

Pretty impressed as it was my first time with 245lbs

OH Squat
110lbs 1 x 5
100lbs 1 x 5
105lbs 2 x 5

Pushups
1 x 16
1 x 7
1 x 5

Went through a few mobility drills again, pretty sore from the first day and running low on time so I didn't do another Core exercise or pullups.

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_Wolf__Wolf_ 1266784190|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I know Eric commented on this, but is your regular training Deadlift form identical to that in the video from the meet?

How come you took such a long time off from lifting?

Why did you do OH Squats after Back Squats on the 19th of February?

It's good that you're doing all these mobility drills. They'll help you a LOT and it really showed in your meet video…your back squats looked solid!

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1266784699|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

From what I can tell, my regular training deadlift form is not 100% Identical, the upperback rounding is not as much.

The time taken off from lifting wasn't my idea. It was a collection of hollidays, snow days, potential snow days that closed all afterschool activities and the coach not being around one day because he also teaches judo.

On February (Friday). I did Back squats first because I had only trained one day that week (Thursday the day before) so I knew that I could do the OH squats over the weekend but I should really get the squats in. So I woke up early to hit the gym because they are open Friday mornings (But i like my Monday, Tuesday, Thursday routine better). But afterschool, the gym was opened again for about an hour so thats when I did OH Squats and pushups.

Thanks Anuj!

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_Wolf__Wolf_ 1266875778|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Well, in your Deadlift your ass rose too fast and you kinda stiff-legged the ending of it. Everything should be in sync. In other words: your keeps, hips, ass and most importantly: the bar itself all experience movement at the same time. Upperback rounding is alright at the heavier weights because naturally if you deadlift in the 500s your upper back will have a larger chance to round in that heavy range versus in the 200s or 300s. I think you should also try for a slightly narrower stance. Look at my video of me doing the doubles two weeks ago so you understand what I mean:

I understand about the time off from lifting. It couldn't be helped.

Ok now I understand about the long rest between Back Squats and OH Squats. Good decision! :)

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_Wolf__Wolf_ 1266876015|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Ok I saw your Deadlift video again: scratch my recomendation on a narrow stance. Your stance is fine. Everything else I said about knees, etc still stands though.

I know you cannot maintain the exact same form on each and every rep you ever do in your life but your form must fall within a range. This range is a set of rules and guidelines:

1.) Deep breath into your belly - and by deep I mean DEEP + you must tighten your core and be firm

2.) Head must be above ass

3.) Ass must be above knees and below head

4.) Shoulders ahead of the bar

5.) Everything moves together at the same time and at lockout hips and knees lockout together at the same time

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1267147706|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Alright, I took those tips you said into consideration and watched a few deadlift videos and made some changes. It definately feels a lot better and less painful on the back (When i did the 295 3 reps 5 sets this week).

Whenever school is over. I'll finally be able to go to a gym and record my workouts and at university aswell so im looking forward to that.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1266971238|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Monday February 22nd 2010

Deadlifts
295
3 x 5

Front Squats
165 1 x 4 (form was not well last rep)
160 1 x 5
155 1 x 6

Pushups
1 x 15
1 x 5
1 x 7

Side Planks (I enjoy these haha)
3 Sets each side. Probobly pushing 30 seconds on the left arm while 30+ on the right)

Mobility Drills
(I just do all of them or all that I can remember and hitting the ones i miss the next day. Kinda like a cool down after a workout that I can just work on mobility that will help my lifts

Tueday February 23rd 2010
Suppose to be no lifting today since Coach teaches Judo. But a Phys Ed teacher let me in ;)

OH Press
100lbs
1 x 4
95lbs
1 x 5
1 x 6

OH press has went down, not impressed, maybe im forgetting to do something with the form or its just the layoff but im not sure.

Pullups
1 Rep
2 Reps
1 Rep

Favorable rest periods inbetween 3-5minutes. But pretty impressed.

And I did a combination of Static Holds from the top and the bottom until I was completley worn out.

Side Planks
Same as Monday.

Applying for University at the moment. Will respond to posts above ASAP.

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_Wolf__Wolf_ 1266976570|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Applying for University at the moment. Will respond to posts above ASAP.

Any US universities?

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EricTEricT 1266979371|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

He's applying for Wassa Matta U

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I just realized you did those pullups! You snuck it in there so nonchalantly I glossed over it. Congrats. That's worth a celebration. I'm popping open a beer in your honor. Were there pullups before and I missed them?

BTW…pullups are more difficult after OH press.


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Those are some pull-ups. Awesome. I'm opening a can of coconut water in your honor…

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Careful there big boy! Should I call your mother?


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us south asians and our coconut water….

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1267147801|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Actually im staying local the first year. Just so i get use to the experience and after the first year i can choose to pursue Business or change to Psychology. Second and the years afterwards I wouldn't mind transferring :P

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1267148228|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thursday February 25th 2010

OH Press
90lbs
1 x 5
115
1 x 2 failed the third
95lbs
1 x 5
100lbs
1 x 5
105lbs
1 x 5

Will more than likely go for 110lbs for 3 x 5 next week

Back Squats
235lbs
1 x 4
1 x 4

When I do squats I usually go down as far as I can go which from what i've heard basically looks like ATG. I usually go lower than what I did at the comp. But I wasn't happy that i was only cranking 4 reps. So I went as low as I did for the comp and then did.

235lbs
2 x 8

Left leg was felt pretty tight before my squats and I could feel it when I would go to the bottom of my squat. Nothing serious, It might've happened in my sleep if I rolled on it or twisted it in some way. It may or may not have had an impact on my squat. But because of it, i was taking upwards to 5min rest periods constantly doing Squats and mobility drills to see if it was getting worse and it felt better.

Did some mobility drills, forgot a Core Excercise. I'll probobly do that and some pushups over the weekend. Realized I forgot to do Inverted rows. For core excercises I'll either do side planks or Torso Rotations or a combination of them both.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1267754386|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Wednesday March 3rd 2010

Deadlift

3 x 295lbs
4 x 315lbs

Great deadlift day

Front Squat

155lbs
1 x 3

165lbs
1 x 3

155lbs
1 x 7 (Felt super light this time around)

165lbs
1 x 5

OH Press

95lbs
1 x 5
1 x 6

100lbs (Felt lighter aswell)
1 x 7

Side Planks
3 X each side

Mobility Drills

No workout for today
Blizzard = No school = May be no school tommorow.

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The weather would find a way to ruin my workout plans. For today I did a continuation of what I missed last week. Some of it anyway. Today I managed to do a few excercises because it had to be cut short.

Monday March 8th 2010

OH Squat
115 1 x 5 (Felt heavy and uncomfortable. lowered the weight as not to risk it falling)
110 1 x 5 (Great)
110 1 x 5 (Felt great again
115 1 x 5 (Great)

Back Squat
245 1 x 5 (Felt like a solid weight thought it would be heavy for 3+ Sets)
235 1 x 5 (Not difficult enough)
255 1 x 5 (Did it well)
260 1 x 3 (Failed on 3rd rep. Put the weight back on the rack and pushed out a final rep)

That was it.

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Good job.


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Wedneday March 10th 2010

Deadlifts
295 1 x 3
315 4 x 3

Failed on the last rep of my last set. Took a 5 second break. Finished it. I had it up like 3/4 of the way for roughly 7 seconds until I locked out.

Front Squat

195 1 x 4. Pretty shocked here
180 1 x 5. Felt good
190 1 x 4.

Pushups

3 Sets to failure

Mobility Drills.

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Thursday March 11th 2010

OH Press

115lbs
1 x 4

110lbs
2 x 5

115lbs
1 x 4

Side Planks

3 X Each Side.

Pullups
1
1 and 7/8ths
3/4

Static Holds from the top and Bottom.

Mobility Drills

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1268940238|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Hey Guys, sorry for the lack of updates latley. Its March break and I haven't been around. Can't lift weights in the basement due to renovations and lack of space. I did make it to a gym with a few relatives and I have Squat videos (Not very pleased with them IMO, Was still sore from the PR i set on deadlift day, that could be the only reason I could think of, it got worse during the workout so I didn't bother with the OH Squats as to not make anything worse and take even longer to recover).

Squat videos up soon!

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Wouldn't you have done the overhead squats first?


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1269378215|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I should have done OH Squats first, a mistake on my part. I was still fatigued from the deadlift day which was the first time I had ever done 315 for reps. The original plan was to do deadlifts but I switched after warming up with deadlifts that it wouldnt have been a productive workout. Should have just done upperbody day since I didn't workout again till yesterday

245 Squat Set 1

245 Squat Set 2

Monday March 21 2010

Deadlift
315lbs
1 x 2
1 x 3
1 x 1

Tweaked back muscle -.-

As soon as I tried to go up for the 2nd rep. I felt something in my back. Not on the spine. But in the lower right side. The powerlifting coach immediately asked if I was alright and had me do some back relieving excercises (not sure what you would call them). Stuff like holding my knees close to my chest and rocking back and forth. Some odd floor stretch. Hanging from the pull up bar. And on this contraption that we hooked up to the squat rack where you lay on your stomach but you do like reverse leg curls? Where essentially you lift your legs as high as you can. Kinda like a superman posisition.

Its not pulled. Because I done that years ago and I could hardly move. It feels really stiff when I walk or sit down so I try not to move much.

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EricTEricT 1269385329|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

No it probably is pulled it's just not pulled badly. Read the injury first aid page. Doesn't sound like a big deal though, you should be fine. Just remember that just because the pain is gone doesn't mean the injury is healed. You should be skipping the next lower body workout and anything that loads the back. Then switch to things that don't load the back as much for the next couple of weeks.

Step ups could be a good replacement for squats since you can get great leg work with less weight on your back. But since the injury is off to the side that can be problematic because step ups cause extra tension in the side of your back the working leg is on. But if you can do step ups with no pain then do them. Otherwise do lunges or split squats. Whatever you can. Let pain be your guide.


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1269746541|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Wednesday March 17th 2010

OH Press

115lbs
3 x 5
1 x 2

Pushups

3 Sets till Failure

took it relatively easy because of the back.

Mobility Drills

Thursday March 18th 2010

Step Ups
Did a few sets of 5 with weights varying between (25-50lbs). I thought these were annoying and switched to Static Lunges instead

Static Lunges
45lbs
1 x 10 Each Side
50lbs
3 x 10 Each Side

Again with that lower back excercise thing that hooks onto the squat rack. I lay on my stomach while I raise my legs so that I look like im doing the superman. Im going to find out what that contrapcion is called XD

Mobility Drills

Good news is the back doesn't bother me where it use to. Now its more near the middle of my middleback but that could just be from that excercise I did. No worries.

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EricTEricT 1269790968|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

The step ups were a bad suggestion. I forgot you've never done them and they are not something you can just jump into as a replacement. They would have been worth it had the injury been more severe. You have to get used to them and find a rhythm. You'll love them some day!

You can start gently massaging out your back with a tennis ball now. Or some other ball but don't start with something too hard. The pain migrating like that is normal. That is it seems to happen to everyone. Sounds like you'll be fine.


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1270432653|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Sorry for the long wait for an update.

No lifting at all went on last week with us getting out on Wednesday and there were Parent Teacher Interviews that night. I have been stretching the back and using the Tennis Ball like you had mentioned. Theres no pain at all now. Bad part is that there is no School Monday, there is no lifting anymore on Tuesdays. So I can lift Wednesday and Thursday but there isn't school again on Friday…. With the Provincial Powerlifting Competition later this month.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1270686448|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Wednesday April 7th 2010

Deadlifts
(Powerlifting coach suggest I go light)
225lbs
2 x 7
245lbs
1 x 5
255lbs
1 x 6

Pulled back muscle again -.-

Front Squats
175lbs
2 x 5

Then I went home. My back wasn't bothering me much on the front squats. Not impressed about hurting the back again…

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JoeWeirJoeWeir 1270730133|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Powerlifting coach suggest I go light

I'd agree with your coaches suggestion but somewhere along the lines, somebody dropped the ball. Low intensity does not mean high volume or density. Meaning that, yes, you should have gone light (never jump right back to high intensities after an injury), and maybe even lighter than you did, but should have kept the volume and density down. I would've done 3 or 4 sets of 3, not 7,5,6. And especially wouldn't have used the highest intensity for the last set using high density. I hate to say it but you were asking for an aggrevation by doing this.

One thing I mentioned in my journal during my recovery was that you can feel ready but really you're in a very dangerous phase of recovery where you aren't at 100% but you feel as though you are. The only thing to do is know that this happens because you have no perception of it.

My advice is to stay off of the deadlifts. Stick to exercises which are inherently lower poundages (front squats as opposed to backsquats, GHR's as opposed to deadlifts, etc.) and lower volumes.


The strength trainee says "Why sacrifice intensity when I can sacrifice volume"
The bodybuilder says "Why sacrifice intensity when I can sacrifice form"

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EricTEricT 1270732086|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I told him not to go back to them for a while. You're absolutely one hundred percent right. Moderate loads with enough reps to get a bit of fatigue is a sure fire way to re-aggravate an injury. You've got what is called a non-disruptive injury and I wrote an article that's on GUS about that. The thing about "going light" is you don't respect it and it bites you in the ass.

Pain goes away before the tissue is at one hundred percent tensile strength. Way before it. But here is the thing that really gets people in trouble. Capacity for force development is damn well 90% and above also before the tissue is ready to handle the load. So that's why you can't perceive it, like Joe says. You basically 'feel' better by subjective measures before you are better.

I'm not going to nurse you through it Nathan. If you don't care listen to your Coach who obviously doesn't know that the hell he's doing or he would have told you to not load your back yet. I have spent months going back and forth with people re-injuring themselves because they don't take me seriously.

I can't care more than you do. So if you want to not have little pulls turn into big ones you can listen but if not I'm not going to beg.


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1270760742|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

One thing I mentioned in my journal during my recovery was that you can feel ready but really you're in a very dangerous phase of recovery where you aren't at 100% but you feel as though you are. The only thing to do is know that this happens because you have no perception of it.

Very true, As I just learned

I'm not going to nurse you through it Nathan. If you don't care listen to your Coach who obviously doesn't know that the hell he's doing or he would have told you to not load your back yet. I have spent months going back and forth with people re-injuring themselves because they don't take me seriously.

I'll take the blame for this one. He said to go light. I didn't at the time know what light meant so I listened to another lifter who even suggest I do 275 which I did do once but I was like no way. I don't think im ready for that yet.

I have spent months going back and forth with people re-injuring themselves because they don't take me seriously.

I understand and know better now. It felt a lot better today after laying on my back on those big blue ball things. Definately going lighter next time.

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JoeWeirJoeWeir 1270766238|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Definately going lighter next time.

By lighter…you mean no weight, right? Because you're going to lay off the deads for a bit?


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The bodybuilder says "Why sacrifice intensity when I can sacrifice form"

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EricTEricT 1270771687|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I think you're sweating an upcoming competition so you don't want to lay off the deads. I honestly would question whether you should even compete. It's not worth it to me at your tender training age. I'd measure one comp against a potential training career of this constantly coming back and biting you in the ass if you re-injur it again.


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1270776037|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

By lighter…you mean no weight, right? Because you're going to lay off the deads for a bit?

Definitely.

I think you're sweating an upcoming competition so you don't want to lay off the deads. I honestly would question whether you should even compete. It's not worth it to me at your tender training age. I'd measure one comp against a potential training career of this constantly coming back and biting you in the ass if you re-injur it again.

I suppose. I don't really see myself lifting anyway.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1270776207|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thursday April 9th 2010

OH Press

115lbs
1 x 4

110lbs
3 x 5

Static Lunges

80lbs
2 x 10 Each Side

90
2 x 10 Each Side

100
1 x 10 Each Side.

Stretched the back on the blue ball thingy and thats when the pain started to subside.

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Monday April 12th 2010

We maxed out on bench today. Kinda disapointed that I was only able to do 155 and it seemed more difficult then at the competition.

Back wasn't feeling great as the workout progrossed

Front Squats:

165lbs
1x5 (Thought it was 185 -.-)

185lbs
2x5

Back wasn't bothering me during lift but felt worse afterwards. I called it a day.

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Tuesday April 13th 2010

OH Press
115 1 x 5
115 1 x 5
105 1 x 7
115 1 x 2

Inverted Rows

3 Sets to failure. Was actually getting close to 10 on my sets.

Tried Side Planks, but they hurt the back. Did not do that long.

Definately going to do SGHR tommorow, completely forgot about those until I found my scribbler again.

Mobility Drills :).

Definately do not see myself lifting at provincials Friday, but im still going for support.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1271455766|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Wednesday April 14th 2010

Provincials are next week.

Decided to kind of max out on squats. I hit 300lbs but it wasn't a busting my ass struggle. Didn't go as low as I normally do, it was just parallel and wore a belt. Any lower and I could feel tightness in my back. But it didnt hurt while Squatting. Hurt the next day a little more though. Once I stop noticing the back pain on a daily basis, I think I might get my OH Squats back in again if that sounds alright.

Static Lunges:

100lbs
3 x 10 Each Side

110lbs
1 x 5 Each Side

SG Ham Raises:
3 x 10

Trying to work in the side planks again, I do feel some pain while doing them.

Pushups:
2 x 7

Wen't over all my mobility drills to kill time.

Im aware I did do three days in a row, but I thought it would be better to excercise than to lay in bed.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1271989251|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

No lifting this weak due to Provincial prep. Anxious to start next week. Turning 18 next week aswel.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1272327436|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

April 26th 2010 Monday

Front Squats
185lbs
1 x 5
185
3 x 6lbs

Deadlifts
135lbs
4 x 5

Pullups
1 x 3 (Was pretty shocked at this)
1 x 3 and 7/8ths of the fourth
1 x 2 and 7/8ths of the 3rd

Did some partials from the top

2 Sets till failure, can see the range of motion increase but then my arms were too drained to do them from the bottom

Side Planks
2 x Failure Each Side

Mobility Drills

Pretty good workout i'd say. I know I stopped squatting and OH Squatting when I pulled the back. Should I wait a but like I am for the heavy deadlifts?

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EricTEricT 1272551380|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Yes you should probably wait to load the back heavy. You should take this oppurtunity to get used to step ups. It's a great exercise and you rejected it out of hand after doing it once. Since you need to wait on the heavy squats then take it as an oppurtunity. You can use dumbbells for the step ups instead of a barbell until you get used to it and you won't be loading your back hardly at all. Our advice competes with your Coaches advise and the atmosphere you lift in so there is only so much I can say. I understand the situation it's just that it's not easy to advize someone when they are getting trained by someone else.

I feel that you got injured because of the abitrary jump to higher volume on deadlifts without a proper build up. Regardless of whether that is the case or not these kinds of back pulls happen to every one. We've all had them. But it's usually because we screwed up!


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1272507251|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

April 28th 2010

Birthday Edition

OH Press
135lbs
1 x 5
1 x 4
1 x 4
1 x 5

Inverted Rows
1 x 10!
1 x 5
Multiple Sets of a couple

Deadlifts
135lbs
4 x 5

Squats
45lbs
2 x 5

Just to test the back, I could still feel the pull if I went low enough on the squat.

Rolled on my back while on one of those big blue balls

Pushups
1 x 11
1 x 6
Multiple Sets Of A Couple

Side Planks
3 sets each side till failure

Mobility Drills.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1272592956|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Thursday April 29th 2010

Static Lunges
110lbs
3 x 10
1 x 6

SG Ham Raises
2 x 10

Side Planks
2 X Each Side till Failure

Mobility Drills

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EricTEricT 1272634770|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

BTW, Nate I realize I just wen't back on my advice about skipping the step ups since they take so long to get used to compared to a simple split squat or lunge but I was anticipating you being able to get back to normal quicker. Completely up to you if you want to do it and what you are doing is fine as well.

You said you rolled on a ball. You'd do better on a foam roller. I doubt the school has them so that is something you may want to get if you don't have one. And of course the tennis ball.


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1272932923|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

May 3rd 2010

Front Squat

185lbs
4 X 5
Definately ready to bump this weight

OH Press
115lbs
1 x 3
95lbs
1 x 7
105lbs
1 x 3
Bad OH Press Day -.-

Pullups
1 x 3
1 x 2 and 3/4
1 x 1 and 3/4
1 x 1

Mobility Drills

Started to feel the back a bit more sore than other days, but it started this morning, feels better now.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1273266088|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

May 6th 2010

Static Lunges
110lbs
3 x 10

120lbs
1 x 5

Inverted Row (Widened grip a little)
3 x Failure

SG Ham Raises
2 x 14
1 x 5

Pushups
1 x 7
3 x 5

Step Ups
Went easy on these just to make sure I don't rush in and end up losing balance or something
20lbs
1 x 5
30lbs
1 x 5
40lbs
1 x 5

My ride got at the gym early so I missed my mobility drills. It doesn't happen often so i'm not too upset about it

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1273538611|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

May 10th

Workout was stopped short today

Front Squat

185lbs
1x5

195lbs
2 x 5

185lbs
1 x 5

OH Press

95lbs
1 x 7

115lbs
1 x 5
1 x 4

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1273703813|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

May 12th 2010

OH Press (Again to finish)
115lbs
1 x 5
1 x 4

Inverted Rows (Wider grip)
1 x 7
1 x 5
1 x 5
1 x 4

Did some Squats and Dealifts at 135lbs to just to see how the back felt, I think I may start slowly working my way up next week, what do you guys think?

Side Planks
3 X Failure

Mobility Drills

Pushups
1 x 11
1 x 7

Any more variable chest excercises I can do?

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1273788752|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

May 13th 2010

Static Lunges
120lbs
4 x 10

Pullups
I did this thing where I would do one rep, let go, take three seconds and do another, just to see how many I could pull.
1 x 5
1 x 5
1 x 1
1 x 1

SGHR
1 x 10
1 x 20

Side Planks
2 X Each Side

Pushups
1 x 11
1 x 5

Mobility Drills.

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EricTEricT 1273797979|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

I did this thing where I would do one rep, let go, take three seconds and do another, just to see how many I could pull.

Good idea.

Any more variable chest excercises I can do?

What's a chest exercise?


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What's a chest exercise?

I think you know what I meant :-P

For some reason there hasn't been any lifting afterschool all week… Weird

I think im going to start adding real deadlifts, squats and OH squats to the routine again, working up slowly with deadlift and experimenting on the Squats. Good idea?

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I think you know what I meant :-P

You may be surprised to hear that I really don't. If you mean "chest builders" I can give you the muscle mag list but when you say chest exercises I honestly don't have a clue.

Yes I think you can start adding stuff in. Actually light Romanians would be a good start instead of conventional deadlifts. The reason being is that you are loading your back from the get go and keeping it loaded. If you start out light enough and you are okay with it then you will know you're okay because the tension is constant. No surprises. Whereas when you start from a dead start off the floor…


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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1274574792|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Well I was just curious because I don't feel as if I get a lot of chest work in (though pullups and pushups work) its basically the place where I don't feel has been worked or is sore the next day.

Romanians sound like a good idea.

Lifting now takes place in the morning now that the gym gets super hot inside and days are getting a lot nicer, going to have to adjust sleeping for that one.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1274814469|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

May 25th 2010

Front Squats
Warm Up
185lbs
1 x 5
205lbs
1 x 5 (thought form was shaky at the last rep)
195lbs
1 x 5
1 x 8

Learned Romanian Deadlifts
135 3 x 5 for those who are just curious, not that it was a difficult weight or anything

And thats all i had time for, surprised that it took me a whole hour to do, I had to shower and get ready for class so I had to skip a few things, going to have to move faster tomorrow.

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May 26th 2010

OH Press
115lbs
1 x 5
110lbs
1 x 6
1 x 5
1 x 5

Probably shouldn't have done pullups afterwards but did so

Pullups
1 x 3 (Then some with assistance)
1 x 2
1 x 1
A few partial reps

Still learning Romanian Deadlifts

185lbs
3 x 5

Side Planks
2 X Each Side (Should time myself sometime)

Mobility Drills

A lot more accomplished today, going to take tomorrow off and try to add OH Squats and Squats back in Friday morning.

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May 28th 2010

OH Squat (Yea!)
95lbs
1 x 5
100lbs
1 x 5
105lbs
2 x 5

Just trying to build my way back up, definitely felt like I haven't done them in awhile

Back Squat
205lbs
3 x 5
Felt really heavy the first set, but got better each time. Legs were killing me all weak from setting PR on front squat. It hurt to walk all week so I am going to go out and say it hindered the squats a little bit.

Thats all i had time for

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1275597175|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

June 3rd 2010

This early morning working out isn't for me :-P (Missed two days) which meant…

Improvision!

Romanian Deadlifts

205lbs
3 x 5

Inverted Rows
3 X Failure

Front Squats
185lbs
3 x 3

Didn't even get to mobility drills!. I'm going to have to start doing these at home, truth be told I should be doing them everyday anyway.

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June 8th 2010

OH Press
115lbs
1 x 3
110lbs
1 x 3
110lbs
1 x 3

Pretty Poor day for OH Press

Back Squat
245lbs
1 x 5
255lbs
1 x 5
265lbs
1 x 6

Impressed myself here.

Can't workout tomorrow since im registering for University Courses, so this gives my upper body enough break so that I can do OH Squat and Whatever Else I need to do on Thursday and Friday.

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Sorry for the lack of updates

No lifting during exams, everyone took an X-Box break. Apparently they did some maxing after school, but I didn't feel like waiting all day. Not an X-Box guy.

School is done, im going to take this time to rest the back completely, it still hasn't been 100%. Every other day theres some discomfort that scares me away from doing deadlifts. Its making me mad.

I'm going to look around for a good gym!

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At times like these don't opt for just sitting around….you should still do Deadlifts but with a much much lighter weight - even if it means taking only 135 lbs and plugging away at it.

When I injured my lower back, sitting around and "resting" was the worst thing I did. Trying to lift as much as I could was also a bad decision. I should've just reduced the weight and reworked everything.

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LegendKillerNathanLegendKillerNathan 1276781444|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

You may have a point :-P. I was just worried about it lingering to when I get to University so I was just trying to play it safe. I have a few things I have to take care of before I go out and get a gym pass but I'll get on it and I can record my workouts now so thats a plus for all of us.

Thanks Anuj

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Re: !~-_-Journey To Heavyweight Champion Of The World 2010 Edition-_-~!
PityPity 1276794211|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

it would be a great time to working on/improving hip mobility…and maybe some core stability.

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_Wolf__Wolf_ 1276794566|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

^^^ True but you should still try to Deadlift regularly. Do not take a complete break from lifting. You get deconditioned and then it takes a while for you to bounce back….I am in the same boat lol…

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Re: !~-_-Journey To Heavyweight Champion Of The World 2010 Edition-_-~!
PityPity 1276797639|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

definitely agree…gotta keep those motor patterns primed and ready :)

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_Wolf__Wolf_ 1276844894|%e %b %Y, %H:%M %Z|agohover

Yup!

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