A big problem is that you have guys who end up with huge numbers despite the fact that they are bogged down in volume oriented thinking and have always left a lot of intensity, and thus a lot of results, in the tank.
And volume oriented thinking is the real base of the problem. You know I've harped on this time and time again. People like to play lip service to "intensity". They say intensity if important or they even go so far to say that intensity is the number one important thing in strength training. They say it but they don't mean it!
"Volume Intensity" is the most ridicuolous notion that has every been spawned in the world of strength training.
The thing is, as we both know well, you can have a lot of volume at high intensities. You can have a very high workoad. But when you can't let go of the bodybuilding mentality then when you say volume what you really mean is both high volume and high density.
Look at the "4 squat workout" which you and Mike are doing. That is getting into the same realm of volume as a 5x5. But it's done with low density and higher intensity. Volume is just reps times sets. It says nothing of TIME which is a whole nother parameter.
I blame the bodybuilding forums and the bodybuilding types in general for introducing the notion that 5x5 programs and other such routines are "strength" training when in reality they are midde ground strength and mass and are really only suited to a beginner intermediate of a certain period of their training (and perhaps here and there after layoffs or for mass or what have you).
But it is a trick of human psychology that people will not remember all the guys struggling and spinning their wheels with this type of training because the "lucky few" stand out more. And you have another problem. The guys who are successful shout it out and tell everybody to do what they do.
The guys that are not successful will come out with a whimper and then will get shouted down and told that it's THEIR FAULT even though the forumites or whoever know nothing about them. "You didn't run it right.", "You didn't back off enough." ETC.
And yet another big misconception is the whole neural fatigue and neural burnout stuff which has so many trainees thinking they can't use lower reps than 4 except for every once in a while.
Ugghh..it's a mess..I could go on and on..and I will, lol, later.