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				<title>Re: !~-_-Journey To Heavyweight Champion Of The World 2010 Edition-_-~!</title>
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				<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 01:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Wedneday March 10th 2010</p> <p>Deadlifts<br /> 295&nbsp;1 x 3<br /> 315&nbsp;4 x 3</p> <p>Failed on the last rep of my last set. Took a 5 second break. Finished it. I had it up like 3/4 of the way for roughly 7 seconds until I locked out.</p> <p>Front Squat</p> <p>195&nbsp;1 x 4. Pretty shocked here<br /> 180&nbsp;1 x 5. Felt good<br /> 190&nbsp;1 x 4.</p> <p>Pushups</p> <p>3 Sets to failure</p> <p>Mobility Drills.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208209/journey-to-heavyweight-champion-of-the-world-2010-edition">!~-_-Journey To Heavyweight Champion Of The World 2010 Edition-_-~!</a>
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				<title>M19 W2 Full Body Training</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 22:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <h1><span><strong>Full Body Training</strong></span></h1> <h3><span><em>Mesocycle 19 - Week 2</em></span></h3> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Beginning Thoughts:</span></strong></p> <p>Yesterday's workout…</p> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Workout:</span></strong></p> <p><strong>Front Squats:</strong><br /> 265 lbs x 2 reps @ 95%<br /> 240 lbs x 3 reps x 5 sets @ 85%</p> <p><strong>Pull-ups:</strong><br /> BW x 11 reps<br /> BW x 11 reps<br /> BW x 9 reps<br /> BW x 8 reps<br /> Total = 39 reps</p> <p><strong>Unilateral Overhead Press:</strong><br /> 60 lbs x 5 reps<br /> 65 lbs x 5 reps<br /> 70 lbs x 5 reps<br /> 75 lbs x 5 reps<br /> 80 lbs x 2 reps</p> <p><strong>Side Plank Rows:</strong><br /> 27.5 lbs x 30 seconds<br /> 27.5 lbs x 30 seconds<br /> 32.5 lbs x 30 seconds</p> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Videos:</span></strong></p> <p>Front Squats, Pull-ups and Unilateral Overhead Press:</p> <div class="collapsible-block"> <div class="collapsible-block-folded"><a class="collapsible-block-link" href="javascript:;" >show&nbsp;video</a></div> <div class="collapsible-block-unfolded" style="display:none"> <div class="collapsible-block-unfolded-link"><a class="collapsible-block-link" href="javascript:;" >hide&nbsp;video</a></div> <div class="collapsible-block-content"> <p><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/mC7roUmrRdY&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" /> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/mC7roUmrRdY&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344" /></object></p> </div> </div> </div> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Overall Impression:</span></strong></p> <p>Diet has been decent. Time to maintain this good diet.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208088/big-boy-basics-part-1">Big Boy Basics Part 1</a>
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				<title>Overhead Squat Day</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <h1><span><strong>WORKOUT C</strong></span></h1> <p><strong>03-09-10</strong></p> <p><strong>Overhead Squats</strong></p> <p>105lbs x 2 reps,<br /> 115lbs x 1 rep,<br /> 115lbs x 3 reps x 4 sets</p> <p>I struggled quite a bit on my last 2 sets with 115ls with my hands wobbling quite a bit but I was able to get those reps.</p> <p><strong>Romanian Deadlifts</strong></p> <p>155lbs x 6reps,<br /> 165lbs x 6 reps,<br /> 175lbs x 6 reps,,<br /> 185lbs x 6 reps.</p> <p>It felt very good to get 185lbs and I don't think my form was bad as all the reps felt controlled and not hard.</p> <p><strong>Grip Training</strong></p> <p><strong>Plate Pinches</strong></p> <p>25lbs x 20 secs x 3 sets</p> <p>These were extremely hard and on I think on 1 set I was just able to hold on with my finger tips.</p> <p><strong>Core Training</strong></p> <p><strong>Cable Wood chops</strong></p> <p>30lbs x 15 reps x 5 sets</p> <p><strong>Video:-</strong><br /> <a href="http://www.ironscene.com/play_hd.php?vid=3995" >http://www.ironscene.com/play_hd.php?vid=3995</a></p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208295/round-rounder-roundest">Round Rounder Roundest</a>
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				<title>Re: Round Rounder Roundest</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <blockquote> <p>Your technique is looking good on the military press. The one side view at least it did.</p> </blockquote> <p>Thank you Sir, hopefully I can maintain this on the heavier weights.</p> <blockquote> <p>I'm talking about adjustable ankle weights that come with individual small weight packs or metal rods which you can REMOVE from the ankle weights</p> </blockquote> <p>Sir I know what you are talking about but the weights in my gym are basicly filled with sand and you cannot adjust them at all they are filled with sand and sewed up.</p> <blockquote> <p>You're not trying to attach the ankles weights themselves, are you</p> </blockquote> <p>No sir the ankle weights which are in the gym have velcro on them so I tried to attach it to the bar but it kept on falling down, they have small metallic hooks which I am planning to use by carrying a small rope or shoe string or a small thick wire next time and tie it around them lets see how it pans out.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208295/round-rounder-roundest">Round Rounder Roundest</a>
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				<title>Re: !~-_-Journey To Heavyweight Champion Of The World 2010 Edition-_-~!</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Good job.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208209/journey-to-heavyweight-champion-of-the-world-2010-edition">!~-_-Journey To Heavyweight Champion Of The World 2010 Edition-_-~!</a>
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				<title>Re: Round Rounder Roundest</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Your technique is looking good on the military press. The one side view at least it did.</p> <p>I saw the camera flash on the ankle weights a few times but I couldn't really see them well. You're not trying to attach the ankles weights themselves, are you? That won't work. I'm talking about adjustable ankle weights that come with individual small weight packs or metal rods which you can REMOVE from the ankle weights. These can be very easily taped on to the ends of the bar with masking tape and then immediately removed. No hard to the gym's bar since masking tape is meant to be removed easily.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208295/round-rounder-roundest">Round Rounder Roundest</a>
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				<title>Press Training</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 07:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <h1><span><strong>WORKOUT B</strong></span></h1> <p><strong>03-08-10</strong></p> <p><strong>Military Press</strong><br /> 115lbs x 2 reps,<br /> 135lbs x 1 rep x 2 sets,<br /> 125lbs x 1 rep,<br /> 115lbs x 3 reps,<br /> 125lbs x 3 reps,<br /> 125lbs x 2 reps.</p> <p>The second set with 135lbs was very hard and I tried to attach the ankle weights (which weigh 1.5kgs or 3.3lbs each ) on my next set but they kept on falling down my technique might be wrong but I will try a few things next week.<br /> Let's see how this goes or I will stick with 125lbs and get more sets.</p> <p>Dumbell Rows</p> <p>55lbs x 4 reps x 3 sets.</p> <p>I reduced the reps from the last time I did these and worked on form.</p> <p><strong>Unilateral Dumbell Press</strong></p> <p>35lbs x 6 reps x 3 sets</p> <p>I am going to use this as a benchmark and progress from here.</p> <p><strong>Seated Cable Rows</strong></p> <p>180lbs x 10 reps x 3 sets</p> <p><strong>Inverted Rows</strong></p> <p>Skipped<br /> i will do these on conditioning day as there were too many people hogging the machine.</p> <p><strong>Facepulls</strong></p> <p>100lbs x 16 reps x 2 sets</p> <p>Hard!!</p> <p><strong>Video:-</strong><br /> <a href="http://www.ironscene.com/play_hd.php?vid=3991" >http://www.ironscene.com/play_hd.php?vid=3991</a></p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208295/round-rounder-roundest">Round Rounder Roundest</a>
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				<title>Re: !~-_-Journey To Heavyweight Champion Of The World 2010 Edition-_-~!</title>
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				<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 00:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>The weather would find a way to ruin my workout plans. For today I did a continuation of what I missed last week. Some of it anyway. Today I managed to do a few excercises because it had to be cut short.</p> <p>Monday March 8th 2010</p> <p>OH Squat<br /> 115&nbsp;1 x 5 (Felt heavy and uncomfortable. lowered the weight as not to risk it falling)<br /> 110&nbsp;1 x 5 (Great)<br /> 110&nbsp;1 x 5 (Felt great again<br /> 115&nbsp;1 x 5 (Great)</p> <p>Back Squat<br /> 245&nbsp;1 x 5 (Felt like a solid weight thought it would be heavy for 3+ Sets)<br /> 235&nbsp;1 x 5 (Not difficult enough)<br /> 255&nbsp;1 x 5 (Did it well)<br /> 260&nbsp;1 x 3 (Failed on 3rd rep. Put the weight back on the rack and pushed out a final rep)</p> <p>That was it.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208209/journey-to-heavyweight-champion-of-the-world-2010-edition">!~-_-Journey To Heavyweight Champion Of The World 2010 Edition-_-~!</a>
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				<title>Re: Keith Barry: Brain magic</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Not a very good one then <img src="http://groundupstrength.wdfiles.com/local--files/forum:start/smile.gif" alt="smile.gif" class="image" /></p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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				<title>Re: Keith Barry: Brain magic</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>I think you were a comedian in a past life.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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				<title>Re: Bologna Bottle</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 16:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>You won't believe this, Joe. I just read somewhere that someone patented a technique for this and sells the prepared bottle to magicians for over one hundred bucks a pop! (get it…pop?) I'm so damned punny.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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				<title>Re: Keith Barry: Brain magic</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Cool. Now to figure out the beer bottle trick!</p> <p>Thanks, E.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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				<title>Re: Bologna Bottle a.k.a The Devil&#039;s Flask</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>This is it, Joe:</p> <p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bologna_bottle">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bologna_bottle</a></p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>You might have to prepare a coke bottle, I'm not sure. I think it has to do with either the material you put into the bottle being harder than the bottle or you somehow introduce resonance into the bottle (people singing into wine glasses and making them pop sort of thing). Afterall, he didn't say the piece of glass was from another coke bottle.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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				<title>Deadlift Day</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:11:13 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <h1><span><strong>WORKOUT A</strong></span></h1> <p><strong>03-06-10</strong></p> <p><strong>Begining Thoughts</strong></p> <p>I am very disappointed in myself for not going regularly to the gym in the last month or so the thing being I let a lot of peoples thoughts get to me about why I am unable to loose weight based on my diet and that really screwed me up to some degree I know how idiotic this sounds but sometimes these weird thoughts really screw up my motivation and the appeal of going to the gym I am reading up alot on how I can get my diet to what I want it to be I know the nutrition values of proteins carbs and fat I need I just don't know what I should be eating to get these in the proportion I need as all the foods I read up on had a high content of carbs which I am trying to avoid and my being a vegetarian doesn't help at all.Let see how far I will have to go to sort this stuff out.<br /> So here's the workout.</p> <p><strong>Deadlifts</strong></p> <p>235lbs x 6 reps x 3 sets</p> <p>I couldn't record all the reps on my last set as the my camera fell to the ground after the second rep. A struggle nonetheless.</p> <p><strong>Front Squats</strong></p> <p>105lbs x 3 reps x 6 sets</p> <p><strong>Cable Pull throughs</strong></p> <p>100lbs x 10 reps x 3 sets.</p> <p><strong>Core Training</strong></p> <p><strong>Dumbell Windmills</strong></p> <p>20lbs x 9 reps x 3 sets</p> <p><strong>Videos:-</strong><br /> <a href="http://www.ironscene.com/play_hd.php?vid=3986">http://www.ironscene.com/play_hd.php?vid=3986</a></p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208295/round-rounder-roundest">Round Rounder Roundest</a>
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				<title>Re: Keith Barry: Brain magic</title>
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				<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 00:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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						 <p>Really? You don't have to prepare the bottle? Coke bottles are WAY thicker than beer bottles, btw. Especially right along the base.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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						 <blockquote> <p>Yeah, the coke bottle thing I've actually seen a few different people do. I posted it more for the "mental" tricks but the coke bottle thing is cool. It's a prop though. The bottles are treated in some way. I think it's something to do with cooling and heating the outside and inside to different temperatures very quickly which stresses the bottle so that it remains "strong" on the outside but just a tiny little knock on the inside by a sharp object (piece of broken glass) shatters it.</p> </blockquote> <p>You can do something similar with just a regular old beer bottle and a penny. Drop the penny into an empty beer bottle and then using your wrist you sort of twirl the beer bottle around so the penny spins along the bottom edge. The penny will either shoot out of a slot/hole in the side or it will take the bottom off.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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						 <blockquote> <p>Have you seen Darren Brown?</p> </blockquote> <p>Never heard of him. Or maybe I have and have forgotten, lol. I'll take a look.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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						 <p>Yeah, the coke bottle thing I've actually seen a few different people do. I posted it more for the "mental" tricks but the coke bottle thing is cool. It's a prop though. The bottles are treated in some way. I think it's something to do with cooling and heating the outside and inside to different temperatures very quickly which stresses the bottle so that it remains "strong" on the outside but just a tiny little knock on the inside by a sharp object (piece of broken glass) shatters it.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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						 <p>I used this today and it really worked. I don't do the high volume like you do (naturally, since I am not used to all that much) but I did use this in between my pull-ups and it helped. I should've used it in between my rows too but it slipped my mind. I'm gonna try this when I do bodyweight pull-ups on Monday. Thanks! :)</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223587/one-arm-pullup-journal">One Arm Pullup Journal</a>
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						 <p>I loved this piece. Very applicable to how I feel sometimes about entire workouts simply because I messed up on one small part of the workout. Being aware of THIS should hopefully (through training) make me aware of how NOT to limit myself in my training.</p> <p>Naturally, this is applicable to all spheres of life, but I am specifically talking about training.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224304/daniel-kahneman:the-riddle-of-experience-vs-memory">Daniel Kahneman: The riddle of experience vs. memory</a>
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						 <h1><span><strong>Back Training</strong></span></h1> <h3><span><em>Mesocycle 19 - Week 2</em></span></h3> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Beginning Thoughts:</span></strong></p> <p>Worked out earlier today..</p> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Workout:</span></strong></p> <p><strong>Weighted Pull-ups:</strong><br /> BW + 20 lbs x 3 reps<br /> BW + 30 lbs x 3 reps<br /> BW + 30 lbs x 3 reps<br /> BW + 40 lbs x 3 reps<br /> BW + 35 lbs x 3 reps<br /> BW + 30 lbs x 3 reps<br /> Total = 18 reps</p> <p><strong>Dumbbell Rows:</strong><br /> 110 lbs x 8 reps x 3 sets</p> <p><strong>High Pulley Rows:</strong><br /> 150 lbs x 8 reps x 3 sets</p> <p><strong>Weird Ab Exercise:</strong><br /> BW x 8 reps x 2 sets<br /> BW x 7 reps</p> <p><strong>Tricep Skullcrushers:</strong><br /> 65 lbs x 6 reps x 2 sets</p> <p><strong>Hammer Curls:</strong><br /> 50 lbs x 6 reps x 2 sets</p> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Videos:</span></strong></p> <p>Weighted Pull-ups, Dumbbell Rows and Weird Ab Exercise:</p> <div class="collapsible-block"> <div class="collapsible-block-folded"><a class="collapsible-block-link" href="javascript:;" >show&nbsp;video</a></div> <div class="collapsible-block-unfolded" style="display:none"> <div class="collapsible-block-unfolded-link"><a class="collapsible-block-link" href="javascript:;" >hide&nbsp;video</a></div> <div class="collapsible-block-content"> <p><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/og7svzSQyVo&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" /> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/og7svzSQyVo&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344" /></object></p> </div> </div> </div> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Overall Impression:</span></strong></p> <p>I am in the process of successfully catching up on my sleep. Another 10 hours tonight and I am GOOD TO GO!!! <img src="http://groundupstrength.wdfiles.com/local--files/forum:start/smile.gif" alt="smile.gif" class="image" /></p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208088/big-boy-basics-part-1">Big Boy Basics Part 1</a>
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						 <p>Not much to report on one arm pullups right now of course but I figured an update on the overhead squat problem and the steps I am taking to solve it are in order.</p> <p>First of all, although I said that the problem was "shoulder mobility" it's really not just the shoulders. Only a tiny part of it is the shoulders and it's really overall all upper back extension.</p> <p>In regards to shoulder mobility/flexibility itself I have ditched any efforts of forcing that issue using crap like 'dislcations' since this will absolutely disable my right shoulder and cause my left shoulder to at least take more than it's share of cigarette breaks.</p> <p>What I do is what I've always done. I use the swiss ball against the wall to get into a very deep squat and then use a wooden dowel to work on the extension. I have all the hip mobility I need. It's just a matter of getting the full extension in the back and bringing the shoulders back a little bit with a narrower grip. Using this method there is no use for "in between grips" to my thinking. I'm using the grip I want to end up with, which is actually a little narrower than elbow width.</p> <p>My grip before was wider than elbow width which is crappy, crappy, crappy. For me at least. Some snatch lifters do employ this ultra wide grip but I can't handle it. Other than then the wrist ligaments going crazy I also get irritation of the supraspinatus in my right shoulder.</p> <p>While I'm on the subject, the 'snatch grip' is a misnomer of sorts, as I brought up in the Snatch Grip Deadlift Article. The snatch is the lift and most use a wide grip doing it but that does not define it. You could use a close grip for the snatch and still be doing a snatch.</p> <p>I'll be hitting that a little later today again.</p> <p>Using the swiss ball gives a means of outside stability so that I can focus solely on the mobility. For the most part, mobility before stability is easier. Of course both can be worked on together and/or separately but generally it's easier to go ahead and get that mobility and then work on fusing that new range of motion with stability.</p> <p>Just because I can get full range of motion at the hips with the ball for support and then work on upper back extension in that position does not mean that I can achieve that range of motion with actual added weight. With that in mind I work it at different levels. Top, quarter down, half down, and full down…and anywhere in between I feel like. Turns into a real workout in itself.</p> <p>This is one of those frustrating things that should make be better than ever in the long run. I will be able to use more weight with overhead squats since my wrists won't be bothered and I will be able to physically support more weight in the overhead position and keep that extended. So, even though I will have to work back up the weights on overhead squat, I should progress very quickly to where I was before and then have a much easier time going forward having solved this major limiting factor, which was my upper back and shoulder mobility in the squat position.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223587/one-arm-pullup-journal">One Arm Pullup Journal</a>
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						 <p>That was really cool!!! I love the Coke Bottle deception as well.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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						 <p>I've seen that one before and I gave it a little thought.</p> <p>What I think is it's beyond me to figure out, lol. Like he said, if you're not trained in deception and how to manipulate people then your theories of how it's done are going to be way off.</p> <p>I really like the first one with the hands. It's so simple and elegant. Just a second of misdirection and he changed his hand positions.</p> <p>Have you seen Darren Brown?</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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						 <p>I really like when he said 'you're not trained in deception' (or something like that) and when he said "if I don't want you to look at my right hand I won't look at it, but if I want you to I'll show you that I'm looking at it". He SAYS he is going to deceive you and use misdirection lol.</p> <p>That foot pressure idea is genius. I'm still trying to think of how he did the cup trick!</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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						 <p>He exposes some of the charlatans out there by doing his thing but making it clear you are being deceived. Like the cold reading he did super quick with the Lady's ex-boyfriends name. There is also the possibility that he got the name wrong but she "played along" which is one of the primary factors. Most people are "nice" and won't expose the performer.</p> <p>I'm thinking of characters like John Edwards making people think he is talking to their dead relatives.</p> <p>The guy raising his hand up and down at the table…this could be completely wrong but he could have easily directed that guy with his foot under the table. "Forget all this even though you're not really hypnoized", lol. I'm probably wrong about the foot thing but the point is he somehow directed the guy to do what he wanted. And notice that he said, in a moment you'll feel a 'certain' pressure. He never explicitly stated that the pressure would be on the guys hand. He didn't even lie! The trick is that we trick ourselves.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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						 <p>That stuff he did was both cool and freaky. Very interesting video.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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						 <h1><span><strong>Deadlift Training</strong></span></h1> <h3><span><em>Mesocycle 19 - Week 2</em></span></h3> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Beginning Thoughts:</span></strong></p> <p>Running on 3 hours of sleep….Needless to say, I wasn't at my 100%.</p> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Workout:</span></strong></p> <p><strong>Deadlifts:</strong><br /> 455 lbs x 4 reps<br /> 455 lbs x 3 reps<br /> I was supposed to do 4 sets of 4 reps with an average minimum of 440 lbs for this workout in order to increase density from last workout which was a wee bit too much to say the least. Given my ty diet and terrible sleeping habits of the previous night, that was not going to happen. Being a stickler for details, I figured with the low motivation and focus I had after 455x3, that quitting was a better idea that Deadlifting with zero focus. Therefore, 455x3 was the last set of the day.</p> <p><strong>Hand Extensions:</strong><br /> 2 bands x 15 reps x 3 sets</p> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Videos:</span></strong></p> <p>Deadlifts:</p> <div class="collapsible-block"> <div class="collapsible-block-folded"><a class="collapsible-block-link" href="javascript:;" >show&nbsp;video</a></div> <div class="collapsible-block-unfolded" style="display:none"> <div class="collapsible-block-unfolded-link"><a class="collapsible-block-link" href="javascript:;" >hide&nbsp;video</a></div> <div class="collapsible-block-content"> <p><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/mA4hfS5mCn0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" /> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/mA4hfS5mCn0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344" /></object></p> </div> </div> </div> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Overall Impression:</span></strong></p> <p>I wish I could catch up on sleep tonight but thats not going to happen. I got another big exam tomorrow. Today's Accounting Exam was pretty good.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208088/big-boy-basics-part-1">Big Boy Basics Part 1</a>
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						 <p><a href="http://www.ted.com">http://www.ted.com</a> First, Keith Barry shows us how our brains can fool our bodies — in a trick that works via podcast too. Then he involves the audience in some jaw-dropping (and even a bit dangerous) feats of brain magic.</p> <p><object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/GigYWy2UmOY&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6" /> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/GigYWy2UmOY&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385" /></object></p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224391/keith-barry:brain-magic">Keith Barry: Brain magic</a>
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				<title>Dan Gilbert: Exploring the frontiers of happiness</title>
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						 <p>"Dan Gilbert presents research and data from his exploration of happiness — sharing some surprising tests and experiments that you can also try on yourself."</p> <div style="text-align: center;"> <p><object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/c-4flnuxNV4&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6" /> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/c-4flnuxNV4&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385" /></object></p> </div> <p><br /></p> <h1><span>Transcript</span></h1> <p>We all make decisions every day; we want to know what the right thing is to do — in domains from the financial to the gastronomic to the professional to the romantic. And surely, if somebody could really tell us how to do exactly the right thing at all possible times, that would be a tremendous gift.</p> <p>It turns out that, in fact, the world was given this gift in 1738 by a Dutch polymath named Daniel Bernoulli. And what I want to talk to you about today is what that gift is, and I also want to explain to you why it is that it hasn't made a damn bit of difference.</p> <p>Now, this is Bernoulli's gift. This is a direct quote. And if it looks like Greek to you, it's because, well, it's Greek. But the simple English translation — much less precise, but it captures the gist of what Bernoulli had to say — was this: The expected value of any of our actions — that is, the goodness that we can count on getting — is the product of two simple things: the odds that this action will allow us to gain something, and the value of that gain to us.</p> <p>In a sense, what Bernoulli was saying is, if we can estimate and multiply these two things, we will always know precisely how we should behave.</p> <p>Now, this simple equation, even for those of you who don't like equations, is something that you're quite used to. Here's an example: if I were to tell you, let's play a little coin toss game, and I'm going to flip a coin, and if it comes up heads, I'm going to pay you 10 dollars, but you have to pay four dollars for the privilege of playing with me, most of you would say, sure, I'll take that bet. Because you know that the odds of you winning are one half, the gain if you do is 10 dollars, that multiplies to five, and that's more than I'm charging you to play. So, the answer is, yes. This is what statisticians technically call a damn fine bet.</p> <p>Now, the idea is simple when we're applying it to coin tosses, but in fact, it's not very simple in everyday life. People are horrible at estimating both of these things, and that's what I want to talk to you about today.</p> <p>There are two kinds of errors people make when trying to decide what the right thing is to do, and those are errors in estimating the odds that they're going to succeed, and errors in estimating the value of their own success. Now, let me talk about the first one first. Calculating odds would seem to be something rather easy: there are six sides to a die, two sides to a coin, 52 cards in a deck. You all know what the likelihood is of pulling the ace of spades or of flipping a heads. But as it turns out, this is not a very easy idea to apply in everyday life. That's why Americans spend more — I should say, lose more — gambling than on all other forms of entertainment combined. The reason is, this isn't how people do odds.</p> <p>The way people figure odds requires that we first talk a bit about pigs. Now, the question I'm going to put to you is whether you think there are more dogs or pigs on leashes observed in any particular day in Oxford. And of course, you all know that the answer is dogs. And the way that you know that the answer is dogs is, you quickly reviewed in memory the times you've seen dogs and pigs on leashes. It was very easy to remember seeing dogs, not so easy to remember pigs. And each one of you assumed that if dogs on leashes came more quickly to your mind, then dogs on leashes are more probable. That's not a bad rule of thumb, except when it is.</p> <p>So, for example, here's a word puzzle. Are there more four-letter English words with R in the third place or R in the first place? Well, you check memory very briefly, make a quick scan, and it's awfully easy to say to yourself, Ring, Rang, Rung, and very hard to say to yourself, Pare, Park: they come more slowly. But in fact, there are many more words in the English language with R in the third than the first place. The reason words with R in the third place come slowly to your mind isn't because they're improbable, unlikely or infrequent. It's because the mind recalls words by their first letter. You, kind of shout out the sound, S — and the word comes. It's like the dictionary; it's hard to look things up by the third letter. So, this is an example of how this idea that the quickness with which things come to mind can give you a sense of their probability —</p> <p>how this idea could lead you astray. It's not just puzzles, though. For example, when Americans are asked to estimate the odds that they will die in a variety of interesting ways — these are estimates of number of deaths per year per 200 million U.S. citizens. And these are just ordinary people like yourselves who are asked to guess how many people die from tornado, fireworks, asthma, drowning, et cetera. Compare these to the actual numbers.</p> <p>Now, you see a very interesting pattern here, which is first of all, two things are vastly over-estimated, namely tornadoes and fireworks; two things are vastly underestimated: dying by drowning and dying by asthma. Why? When was the last time that you picked up a newspaper and the headline was, "Boy dies of Asthma?" It's not interesting because it's so common. It's very easy for all of us to bring to mind instances of news stories or newsreels where we've seen tornadoes devastating cities, or some poor schmuck who's blown his hands off with a firework on the Fourth of July. Drownings and asthma deaths don't get much coverage. They don't come quickly to mind, and as a result, we vastly underestimate them.</p> <p>Indeed, this is kind of like the Sesame Street game of "Which thing doesn't belong?" And you're right to say it's the swimming pool that doesn't belong, because the swimming pool is the only thing on this slide that's actually very dangerous. The way that more of you are likely to die than the combination of all three of the others that you see on the slide.</p> <p>The lottery is an excellent example, of course — an excellent test-case of people's ability to compute probabilities. And economists — forgive me, for those of you who play the lottery — but economists, at least among themselves, refer to the lottery as a stupidity tax, because the odds of getting any payoff by investing your money in a lottery ticket are approximately equivalent to flushing the money directly down the toilet — which, by the way, doesn't require that you actually go to the store and buy anything.</p> <p>Why in the world would anybody ever play the lottery? Well, there are many answers, but one answer surely is, we see a lot of winners. Right? When this couple wins the lottery, or Ed McMahon shows up at your door with this giant check — how the hell do you cash things that size, I don't know. We see this on TV; we read about it in the paper. When was the last time that you saw extensive interviews with everybody who lost? Indeed, if we we required that television stations run a 30-second interview with each loser every time they interview a winner, the 100 million losers in the last lottery would require nine-and-a-half years of your undivided attention just to watch them say, "Me? I lost." "Me? I lost." Now, if you watch nine-and-a-half years of television — no sleep, no potty breaks — and you saw loss after loss after loss, and then at the end there's 30 seconds of, "and I won," the likelihood that you would play the lottery is very small.</p> <p>Look, I can prove this to you: here's a little lottery. There's 10 tickets in this lottery. Nine of them have been sold to these individuals. It costs you a dollar to buy the ticket and, if you win, you get 20 bucks. Is this a good bet? Well, Bernoulli tells us it is: the expected value of this lottery is two dollars; this is a lottery in which you should invest your money. And most people say, "OK, I'll play."</p> <p>Now, a slightly different version of this lottery: imagine that the nine tickets are all owned by one fat guy named Leroy. Leroy has nine tickets; there's one left. Do you want it? Most people won't play this lottery. Now, you can see the odds of winning haven't changed, but it's now fantastically easy to imagine who's going to win. It's easy to see Leroy getting the check, right? You can't say to yourself, "I'm as likely to win as anybody," because you're not as likely to win as Leroy. The fact that all those tickets are owned by one guy changes your decision to play, even though it does nothing whatsoever to the odds.</p> <p>Now, estimating odds, as difficult as it may seem, is a piece of cake compared to trying to estimate value: trying to say what something is worth, how much we'll enjoy it, how much pleasure it will give us. I want to talk now about errors in value. How much is this Big Mac worth? Is it worth 25 dollars? Most of you have the intuition that it's not — you wouldn't pay that for it.</p> <p>But in fact, to decide whether a Big Mac is worth 25 dollars requires that you ask one, and only one question, which is: What else can I do with 25 dollars? If you've ever gotten on one of those long-haul flights to Australia and realized that they're not going to serve you any food, but somebody in the row in front of you has just opened the McDonald's bag, and the smell of golden arches is wafting over the seat, you think, I can't do anything else with this 25 dollars for 16 hours. I can't even set it on fire — they took my cigarette lighter! Suddenly, 25 dollars for a Big Mac might be a good deal.</p> <p>On the other hand, if you're visiting an underdeveloped country, and 25 dollars buys you a gourmet meal, it's exorbitant for a Big Mac. Why were you all sure that the answer to the question was no, before I'd even told you anything about the context? Because most of you compared the price of this Big Mac to the price you're used to paying. Rather than asking, "What else can I do with my money," comparing this investment to other possible investments, you compared to the past. And this is a systematic error people make. What you knew is, you paid three dollars in the past; 25 is outrageous.</p> <p>This is an error, and I can prove it to you by showing the kinds of irrationalities to which it leads. For example, this is, of course, one of the most delicious tricks in marketing, is to say something used to be higher, and suddenly it seems like a very good deal. When people are asked about these two different jobs: a job where you make 60K, then 50K, then 40K, a job where you're getting a salary cut each year, and one in which you're getting a salary increase, people like the second job better than the first, despite the fact they're all told they make much less money. Why? Because they had the sense that declining wages are worse than rising wages, even when the total amount of wages is higher in the declining period. Here's another nice example.</p> <p>Here's a 2,000 dollar Hawaiian vacation package; it's now on sale for 1,600. Assuming you wanted to go to Hawaii, would you buy this package? Most people say they would. Here's a slightly different story: 2,000 dollar Hawaiian vacation package is now on sale for 700 dollars, so you decide to mull it over for a week. By the time you get to the ticket agency, the best fares are gone — the package now costs 1,500. Would you buy it? Most people say, no. Why? Because it used to cost 700, and there's no way I'm paying 1,500 for something that was 700 last week.</p> <p>This tendency to compare to the past is causing people to pass up the better deal. In other words, a good deal that used to be a great deal is not nearly as good as an awful deal that was once a horrible deal.</p> <p>Here's another example of how comparing to the past can befuddle our decisions. Imagine that you're going to the theater. You're on your way to the theater. In your wallet you have a ticket, for which you paid 20 dollars. You also have a 20-dollar bill. When you arrive at the theater, you discover that somewhere along the way you've lost the ticket. Would you spend your remaining money on replacing it? Most people answer, no. Now, let's just change one thing in this scenario. You're on your way to the theater, and in your wallet you have two 20-dollar bills. When you arrive you discover you've lost one of them. Would you spend your remaining 20 dollars on a ticket? Well, of course: I went to the theater to see the play. What does the loss of 20 dollars along the way have to do?</p> <p>Now, just in case you're not getting it, here's a schematic of what happened, OK? (Laughter) Along the way, you lost something. In both cases, it was a piece of paper. In one case, it had a U.S. president on it; in the other case it didn't. What the hell difference should it make? The difference is that when you lost the ticket you say to yourself, I'm not paying twice for the same thing. You compare the cost of the play now — 40 dollars — to the cost that it used to have — 20 dollars — and you say it's a bad deal. Comparing with the past causes many of the problems that behavioral economists and psychologists identify in people's attempts to assign value. But even when we compare with the possible, instead of the past, we still make certain kinds of mistakes. And I'm going to show you one or two of them.</p> <p>One of the things we know about comparison: that when we compare one thing to the other, it changes its value. So in 1992, this fellow, George Bush, for those of use who were, kind of on the liberal side of the political spectrum, didn't seem like such a great guy. Suddenly, we're almost longing for him to return. (Laughter) The comparison changes how we evaluate him.</p> <p>Now, retailers knew this long before anybody else did, of course, and they use this wisdom to help you — spare you the undue burden of money. And so a retailer, if you were to go into a wine shop and you had to buy a bottle of wine, and you see them here for 8, 27 and 33 dollars, what would you do? Most people don't want the most expensive, they don't want the least expensive. So, they will opt for the item in the middle. If you're a smart retailer, then, you will put a very expensive item that nobody will ever buy on the shelf, because suddenly the 33-dollar wine doesn't look as expensive in comparison.</p> <p>So I'm telling you something you already knew: namely, that comparison changes the value of things. Here's why that's a problem: the problem is that when you get that 33-dollar bottle of wine home, it won't matter what it used to be sitting on the shelf next to. The comparisons we make when we are appraising value, where we're trying to estimate how much we'll like things, are not the same comparisons we'll be making when we consume them. This problem of shifting comparisons can bedevil our attempts to make rational decisions.</p> <p>Let me just give you an example. I have to show you something from my own lab, so let me sneak this in. These are subjects coming to an experiment to be asked the simplest of all questions: How much will you enjoy eating potato chips one minute from now? They're sitting in a room with potato chips in front of them. For some of the subjects, sitting in the far corner of a room is a box of Godiva chocolates, and for others is a can of Spam. In fact, these items that are sitting in the room change how much the subjects think they're going to enjoy the potato chips. Namely, those who are looking at Spam think potato chips are going to be quite tasty; those who are looking at Godiva chocolate think they won't be nearly so tasty. Of course, what happens when they eat the potato chips? Well, look, you didn't need a psychologist to tell you that when you have a mouthful of greasy, salty, crispy, delicious snacks, what's sitting in the corner of the room makes not a damn bit of difference to your gustatory experience. Nonetheless, their predictions are perverted by a comparison that then does not carry through and change their experience.</p> <p>You've all experienced this yourself, even if you've never come into our lab to eat potato chips, so here's a question: You want to buy a car stereo. The dealer near your house sells this particular stereo for 200 dollars, but if you drive across town, you can get it for 100 bucks. So would you drive to get 50 percent off, saving 100 dollars? Most people say they would. They can't imagine buying it for twice the price when, with one trip across town, they can get it for half off.</p> <p>Now, let's imagine instead you wanted to buy a car that had a stereo, and the dealer near your house had it for 31,000. But if you drove across town, you could get it for 30,900. Would you drive to get it? At this point, 0.003 savings — the 100 dollars. Most people say, no, I'm going to schlep across town to save 100 bucks on the purchase of a car?</p> <p>This kind of thinking drives economists crazy, and it should. Because this 100 dollars that you save — hello! — doesn't know where it came from. It doesn't know what you saved it on. When you go to buy groceries with it, it doesn't go, I'm the money saved on the car stereo, or, I'm the dumb money saved on the car. It's money. And if a drive across town is worth 100 bucks, it's worth 100 bucks no matter what you're saving it on. People don't think that way. That's why they don't know whether their mutual fund manager is taking 0.1 percent or 0.15 percent of their investment, but they clip coupons to save one dollar off of toothpaste.</p> <p>Now, you can see, this is the problem of shifting comparisons, because what you're doing is, you're comparing the 100 bucks to the purchase that you're making, but when you go to spend that money you won't be making that comparison. You've all had this experience.</p> <p>If you're an American, for example, you've probably traveled in France. And at some point you may have met a couple from your own hometown, and you thought, "Oh, my God, these people are so warm. They're so nice to me. I mean, compared to all these people who hate me when I try to speak their language and hate me more when I don't, these people are just wonderful." And so you tour France with them, and then you get home and you invite them over for dinner, and what do you find? Compared to your regular friends, they are boring and dull, right? Because in this new context, the comparison is very, very different. In fact, you find yourself disliking them enough almost to qualify for French citizenship.</p> <p>Now, you have exactly the same problem when you shop for a stereo. You go to the stereo store, you see two sets of speakers — these big, boxy, monoliths, and these little, sleek speakers, and you play them, and you go, you know, I do hear a difference: the big ones sound a little better. And so you buy them, and you bring them home, and you entirely violate the décor of your house. And the problem, of course, is that this comparison you made in the store is a comparison you'll never make again. What are the odds that years later you'll turn on the stereo and go, "Sounds so much better than those little ones," which you can't even remember hearing.</p> <p>The problem of shifting comparisons is even more difficult when these choices are arrayed over time. People have a lot of trouble making decisions about things that will happen at different points in time. And what psychologists and behavioral economists have discovered is that by and large people use two simple rules. So let me give you one very easy problem, a second very easy problem and then a third, hard, problem.</p> <p>Here's the first easy problem: You can have 60 dollars now or 50 dollars now. Which would you prefer? This is what we call a one-item IQ test, OK? All of us, I hope, prefer more money, and the reason is, we believe more is better than less.</p> <p>Here's the second problem: You can have 60 dollars today or 60 dollars in a month. Which would you prefer? Again, an easy decision, because we all know that now is better than later. What's hard in our decision-making is when these two rules conflict. For example, when you're offered 50 dollars now or 60 dollars in a month. This typifies a lot of situations in life in which you will gain by waiting, but you have to be patient. What do we know? What do people do in these kinds of situations? Well, by and large people are enormously impatient. That is, they require interest rates in the hundred or thousands of percents in order to delay gratification and wait until next month for the extra 10 dollars. Maybe that isn't so remarkable, but what is remarkable is how easy it is to make this impatience go away by simply changing when the delivery of these monetary units will happen. Imagine that you can have 50 dollars in a year — that's 12 months — or 60 dollars in 13 months. What do we find now? People are gladly willing to wait: as long as they're waiting 12, they might as well wait 13.</p> <p>What makes this dynamic inconsistency happen? Comparison. Troubling comparison. Let me show you.</p> <p>This is just a graph showing the results that I just suggested you would show if I gave you time to respond, which is, people find that the subjective value of 50 is higher than the subjective value of 60 when they'll be delivered in now or one month, respectively — a 30-day delay — but they show the reverse pattern when you push the entire decision off into the future a year. Now, why in the world do you get this pattern of results?</p> <p>These guys can tell us. What you see here are two lads, one of them larger than the other: the fireman and the fiddler. They are going to recede towards the vanishing point in the horizon, and I want you to notice two things. At no point will the fireman look taller than the fiddler. No point. However, the difference between them seems to be getting smaller. First it's an inch in your view, then it's a quarter-inch, then a half-inch, and then finally they go off the edge of the earth.</p> <p>Here are the results of what I just showed you. This is the subjective height — the height you saw of these guys at various points. And I want you to see that two things are true. One, the farther away they are, the smaller they look; and two, the fireman is always bigger than the fiddler. But watch what happens when we make some of them disappear. Right. At a very close distance, the fiddler looks taller than the fireman, but at a far distance their normal, their true, relations are preserved. As Plato said, what space is to size, time is to value. These are the results of the hard problem I gave you: 60 now or 50 in a month? And these are subjective values, and what you can see is, our two rules are preserved.</p> <p>People always think more is better than less: 60 is always better than 50; and they always think now is better than later: the bars on this side are higher than the bars on this side. Watch what happens when we drop some out. Suddenly we have the dynamic inconsistency that puzzled us. We have the tendency for people to go for 50 dollars now over waiting a month, but not if that decision is far in the future. Notice something interesting that this implies — namely, that when people get to the future, they will change their minds. That is, as that month 12 approaches, you will say, what was I thinking, waiting an extra month for 60 dollars? I'll take the 50 dollars now.</p> <p>Well, the question with which I'd like to end is this: If we're so damn stupid, how did we get to the moon? Because I could go on for about two hours with evidence of people's inability to estimate odds and inability to estimate value.</p> <p>The answer to this question, I think, is an answer you've already heard in some of the talks, and I dare say you will hear again: namely, that our brains were evolved for a very different world than the one in which we are living. They were evolved for a world in which people lived in very small groups, rarely met anybody who was terribly different from themselves, had rather short lives in which there were few choices and the highest priority was to eat and mate today.</p> <p>Bernoulli's gift, Bernoulli's little formula, allows us, it tells us how we should think in a world for which nature never designed us. That explains why we are so bad at using it, but it also explains why it is so terribly important that we become good, fast. We are the only species on this planet that has ever held its own fate in its hands. We have no significant predators, we're the masters of our physical environment; the things that normally cause species to become extinct are no longer any threat to us. The only thing — the only thing — that can destroy us and doom us are our own decisions. If we're not here in 10,000 years, it's going to be because we could not take advantage of the gift given to us by a young Dutch fellow in 1738, because we underestimated the odds of our future pains and overestimated the value of our present pleasures.</p> <p>Thank you. (Applause)</p> <p>Chris Anderson: That was remarkable. We have time for some questions for Dan Gilbert. One and two.</p> <p>Bill Lyell: Would you say that this mechanism is in part how terrorism actually works to frighten us, and is there some way that we could counteract that?</p> <p>Dan Gilbert: I actually was consulting recently with the Department of Homeland Security, which generally believes that American security dollars should go to making borders safer. I tried to point out to them that terrorism was a name based on people's psychological reaction to a set of events, and that if they were concerned about terrorism they might ask what causes terror and how can we stop people from being terrified, rather than — not rather than, but in addition to stopping the atrocities that we're all concerned about. Surely the kinds of play that at least American media give to — and forgive me, but in raw numbers these are very tiny accidents. We already know, for example, in the United States, more people have died as a result of not taking airplanes — because they were scared — and driving on highways, than were killed in 9/11. OK? If I told you that there was a plague that was going to kill 15,000 Americans next year, you might be alarmed if you didn't find out it was the 'flu. These are small-scale accidents, and we should be wondering whether they should get the kind of play, the kind of coverage, that they do. Surely that causes people to overestimate the likelihood that they'll be hurt in these various ways, and gives power to the very people who want to frighten us.</p> <p>CA: Dan, I'd like to hear more on this. So, you're saying that our response to terror is, I mean, it's a form of mental bug? Talk more about it.</p> <p>DG: It's out-sized. I mean, look. If Australia disappears tomorrow, terror is probably the right response. That's an awful large lot of very nice people. On the other hand, when a bus blows up and 30 people are killed, more people than that were killed by not using their seatbelts in the same country. Is terror the right response?</p> <p>CA: What causes the bug? Is it the drama of the event — that it's so spectacular? Is it the fact that it's an intentional attack by, quote, outsiders? What is it?</p> <p>DG: Yes. It's a number of things, and you hit on several of them. First, it's a human agent trying to kill us — it's not a tree falling on us by accident. Second, these are enemies who may want to strike and hurt us again. People are being killed for no reason instead of good reason — as if there's good reason, but sometimes people think there are. So there are a number of things that together make this seem like a fantastic event, but let's not play down the fact that newspapers sell when people see something in it they want to read. So there's a large role here played by the media, who want these things to be as spectacular as they possibly can.</p> <p>CA: I mean, what would it take to persuade our culture to downplay it?</p> <p>DG: Well, go to Israel. You know, go to Israel. And a mall blows up, and then everybody's unhappy about it, and an hour-and-a-half later — at least when I was there, and I was 150 feet from the mall when it blew up — I went back to my hotel and the wedding that was planned was still going on. And as the Israeli mother said, she said, "We never let them win by stopping weddings." I mean, this is a society that has learned — and there are others too — that has learned to live with a certain amount of terrorism and not be quite as upset by it, shall I say, as those of us who have not had many terror attacks.</p> <p>CA: But is there a rational fear that actually, the reason we're frightened about this is because we think that the Big One is to come?</p> <p>DG: Yes, of course. So, if we knew that this was the worst attack there would ever be, there might be more and more buses of 30 people — we would probably not be nearly so frightened. I don't want to say — please, I'm going to get quoted somewhere as saying, "Terrorism is fine and we shouldn't be so distressed." That's not my point at all. What I'm saying is that, surely, rationally, our distress about things that happen, about threats, should be roughly proportional to the size of those threats and threats to come. I think in the case of terrorism, it isn't. And many of the things we've heard about from our speakers today — how many people do you know got up and said, Poverty! I can't believe what poverty is doing to us. People get up in the morning; they don't care about poverty. It's not making headlines; it's not making news, it's not flashy. There are no guns going off. I mean, if you had to solve one of these problems, Chris, which would you solve? Terrorism or poverty? (Laughter) (Applause) That's a tough one.</p> <p>CA: There's no question. Poverty, by an order of magnitude, a huge order of magnitude, unless someone can show that there's, you know, terrorists with a nuke are really likely to come. The latest I've read, seen, thought is that it's incredibly hard for them to do that. If that turns out to be wrong, we all look silly, but with poverty it's a bit —</p> <p>DG: Even if that were true, still more people die from poverty.</p> <p>CA: We've evolved to get all excited about these dramatic attacks. Is that because in the past, in the ancient past, we just didn't understand things like disease and systems that cause poverty and so forth, and so it made no sense for us as a species to put any energy into worrying about those things? People died; so be it. But if you got attacked, that was something you could do something about. and so we evolved these responses. Is that what happened?</p> <p>DG: Well, you know, the people who are most skeptical about leaping to evolutionary explanations for everything are the evolutionary psychologists themselves. My guess is that there's nothing quite that specific in our evolutionary past. But rather, if you're looking for an evolutionary explanation, you might say that most organisms are neo-phobic — that is, they're a little scared of stuff that's new and different. And there's a good reason to be, because old stuff didn't eat you. Right? Any animal you see that you've seen before is less likely to be a predator than one that you've never seen before. So, you know, when a school bus is blown up and we've never seen this before, our general tendency is to orient towards that which is new and novel is activated. I don't think it's quite as specific a mechanism as the one you alluded to, but maybe a more fundamental one underlying it.</p> <p>Jay Walker: You know, economists love to talk about the stupidity of people who buy lottery tickets. But I suspect you're making the exact same error you're accusing those people of, which is the error of value. I know, because I've interviewed about 1,000 lottery buyers over the years. It turns out that the value of buying a lottery ticket is not winning. That's what you think it is. All right? The average lottery buyer buys about 150 tickets a year, so the buyer knows full well that he or she is going to lose, and yet she buys 150 tickets a year. Why is that? It's not because she is stupid or he is stupid. It's because the anticipation of possibly winning releases serotonin in the brain, and actually provides a good feeling until the drawing indicates you've lost. Or, to put it another way, for the dollar investment, you can have a much better feeling than flushing the money down the toilet, which you cannot have a good feeling from. Now, economists tend to — (Applause) — economists tend to view the world through their own lenses, which is: this is just a bunch of stupid people. And as a result, many people look at economists as stupid people. And so fundamentally, the reason we got to the moon is, we didn't listen to the economists. Thank you very much. (Applause)</p> <p>DG: Well, no, it's a great point. It remains to be seen whether the joy of anticipation is exactly equaled by the amount of disappointment after the lottery. Because remember, people who didn't buy tickets don't feel awful the next day either, even though they don't feel great during the drawing. I would disagree that people know they're not going to win. I think they think it's unlikely, but it could happen, which is why they prefer that to the flushing. But certainly I see your point: that there can be some utility to buying a lottery ticket other than winning. Now, I think there's many good reasons not to listen to economists. That isn't one of them, for me, but there's many others.</p> <p>CA: Last question.</p> <p>Aubrey de Grey: My name's Aubrey de Grey, from Cambridge. I work on the thing that kills more people than anything else kills — I work on aging — and I'm interested in doing something about it, as we'll all hear tomorrow. I very much resonate with what you're saying, because it seems to me that the problem with getting people interested in doing anything about aging is that by the time aging is about to kill you it looks like cancer or heart disease or whatever. Do you have any advice? (Laughter)</p> <p>DG: For you or for them?</p> <p>AdG: In persuading them.</p> <p>DG: Ah, for you in persuading them. Well, it's notoriously difficult to get people to be farsighted. But one thing that psychologists have tried that seems to work is to get people to imagine the future more vividly. One of the problems with making decisions about the far future and the near future is that we imagine the near future much more vividly than the far future. To the extent that you can equalize the amount of detail that people put into the mental representations of near and far future, people begin to make decisions about the two in the same way. So, would you like to have an extra 100,000 dollars when you're 65 is a question that's very different than, imagine who you'll be when you're 65: will you be living, what will you look like, how much hair will you have, who will you be living with. Once we have all the details of that imaginary scenario, suddenly we feel like it might be important to save so that that guy has a little retirement money. But these are tricks around the margins. I think in general you're battling a very fundamental human tendency, which is to say, "I'm here today, and so now is more important than later."</p> <p>CA: Dan, thank you. Members of the audience, that was a fantastic session. Thank you. (Applause)</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224386/dan-gilbert:why-are-we-happy-why-aren-t-we-happy">Dan Gilbert: Why are we happy? Why aren't we happy?</a>
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						 <p>"In this memorable talk, Dan Gilbert demonstrates just how poor we humans are at predicting (or understanding) what will make us happy. Gilbert is a psychology professor at Harvard, and author of "Stumbling on Happiness". He challenges the idea that we’ll be miserable if we don’t get what we want. Our "psychological immune system" lets us feel truly happy even when things don’t go as planned."</p> <div style="text-align: center;"> <p><object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/LTO_dZUvbJA&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6" /> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/LTO_dZUvbJA&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x2b405b&amp;color2=0x6b8ab6" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385" /></object></p> </div> <p><br /></p> <h1><span>Transcript</span></h1> <p>When you have 21 minutes to speak, two million years seems like a really long time. But evolutionarily, two million years is nothing. And yet in two million years the human brain has nearly tripled in mass, going from the one-and-a-quarter pound brain of our ancestor here, Habilis, to the almost three-pound meatloaf that everybody here has between their ears. What is it about a big brain that nature was so eager for every one of us to have one?</p> <p>Well, it turns out when brains triple in size, they don't just get three times bigger, they gain new structures. And one of the main reasons our brain got so big is because it got a new part, called the frontal lobe. And particularly, a part called the pre-frontal cortex. Now what does a pre-frontal cortex do for you that should justify the entire architectural overhaul of the human skull in the blink of evolutionary time?</p> <p>Well, it turns out the pre-frontal cortex does lots of things, but one of the most important things it does is that it is an experience simulator. Flight pilots practice in flight simulators so that they don't make real mistakes in planes. Human beings have this marvelous adaptation that they can actually have experiences in their heads before they try them out in real life. This is a trick that none of our ancestors could do, and that no other animal can do quite like we can. It's a marvelous adaptation. It's up there with opposable thumbs and standing upright and language as one of the things that got our species out of the trees and into the shopping mall.</p> <p>Now — (Laughter) — all of you have done this. I mean, you know, Ben and Jerry's doesn't have liver-and-onion ice cream. It's not because they whipped some up, tried it and went, "Yuck." It's because, without leaving your armchair, you can simulate that flavor and say yuck before you make it.</p> <p>Let's see how your experience simulators are working. Let's just run a quick diagnostic before I proceed with the rest of the talk. Here's two different futures that I invite you to contemplate, and you can try to simulate them and tell me which one you think you might prefer. One of them is winning the lottery. This is about 314 million dollars. And the other is becoming paraplegic. So, just give it a moment of thought. You probably don't feel like you need a moment of thought.</p> <p>Interestingly, there are data on these two groups of people, data on how happy they are. And this is exactly what you expected, isn't it? But these aren't the data. I made these up!</p> <p>These are the data. You failed the pop quiz, and you're hardly five minutes into the lecture Because the fact is that a year after losing the use of their legs, and a year after winning the lotto, lottery winners and paraplegics are equally happy with their lives.</p> <p>Now, don't feel too bad about failing the first pop quiz, because everybody fails all of the pop quizzes all of the time. The research that my laboratory has been doing, that economists and psychologists around the country have been doing, have revealed something really quite startling to us. Something we call the impact bias, which is the tendency for the simulator to work badly. For the simulator to make you believe that different outcomes are more different than in fact they really are.</p> <p>From field studies to laboratory studies, we see that winning or losing an election, gaining or losing a romantic partner, getting or not getting a promotion, passing or not passing a college test, on and on, have far less impact, less intensity and much less duration than people expect them to have. In fact, a recent study — this almost floors me — a recent study showing how major life traumas affect people suggests that if it happened over three months ago, with only a few exceptions, it has no impact whatsoever on your happiness.</p> <p>Why? Because happiness can be synthesized. Sir Thomas Brown wrote in 1642, "I am the happiest man alive. I have that in me that can convert poverty to riches, adversity to prosperity. I am more invulnerable than Achilles; fortune hath not one place to hit me." What kind of remarkable machinery does this guy have in his head?</p> <p>Well, it turns out it's precisely the same remarkable machinery that all off us have. Human beings have something that we might think of as a psychological immune system. A system of cognitive processes, largely non-conscious cognitive processes, that help them change their views of the world, so that they can feel better about the worlds in which they find themselves. Like Sir Thomas, you have this machine. Unlike Sir Thomas, you seem not to know it.</p> <p>We synthesize happiness, but we think happiness is a thing to be found. Now, you don't need me to give you too many examples of people synthesizing happiness, I suspect. Though I'm going to show you some experimental evidence, you don't have to look very far for evidence.</p> <p>As a challenge to myself, since I say this once in a while in lectures, I took a copy of the New York Times and tried to find some instances of people synthesizing happiness. And here are three guys synthesizing happiness. "I am so much better off physically, financially, emotionally,mentally and almost every other way." "I don't have one minute's regret. It was a glorious experience." "I believe it turned out for the best."</p> <p>Who are these characters who are so damn happy? Well, the first one is Jim Wright. Some of you are old enough to remember: he was the chairman of the House of Representatives and he resigned in disgrace when this young Republican named Newt Gingrich found out about a shady book deal he had done. He lost everything. The most powerful Democrat in the country, he lost everything. he lost his money, he lost his power, What does he have to say all these years later about it? "I am so much better off physically, financially, mentally and in almost every other way." What other way would there be to be better off? Vegetably? Minerally? Animally? He's pretty much covered them there.</p> <p>Moreese Bickham is somebody you've never heard of. Moreese Bickham uttered these words upon being released. He was 78 years old. He spent 37 years in a Louisiana State Penitentiary for a crime he didn't commit. He was ultimately exonerated, at the age of 78, through DNA evidence. And what did he have to say about his experience? "I don't have one minute's regret. It was a glorious experience." Glorious! This guy is not saying, "Well, you know, there were some nice guys. They had a gym." It's "glorious," a word we usually reserve for something like a religious experience.</p> <p>Harry S. Langerman uttered these words, and he's somebody you might have known but didn't, because in 1949 he read a little article in the paper about a hamburger stand owned by these two brothers named McDonalds. And he thought, "That's a really neat idea!" So he went to find them. They said, "We can give you a franchise on this for 3,000 bucks." Harry went back to New York, asked his brother who's an investment banker to loan him the 3,000 dollars, and his brother's immortal words were, "You idiot, nobody eats hamburgers." He wouldn't lend him the money, and of course six months later Ray Croc had exactly the same idea. It turns out people do eat hamburgers, and Ray Croc, for a while, became the richest man in America.</p> <p>And then finally — you know, the best of all possible worlds — some of you recognize this young photo of Pete Best, who was the original drummer for the Beatles, until they, you know, sent him out on an errand and snuck away and picked up Ringo on a tour. Well, in 1994 when Pete Best was interviewed — yes, he's still a drummer; yes, he's a studio musician — he had this to say: "I'm happier than I would have been with the Beatles."</p> <p>Okay. There's something important to be learned from these people, and it is the secret of happiness. Here it is, finally to be revealed. First: accrue wealth, power, and prestige, then lose it. (Laughter) Second: spend as much of your life in prison as you possibly can. (Laughter) Third: make somebody else really, really rich. (Laughter) And finally: never ever join the Beatles. (Laughter)</p> <p>OK. Now I, like Ze Frank, can predict your next thought, which is, "Yeah, right." Because when people synthesize happiness, as these gentlemen seem to have done, we all smile at them, but we kind of roll our eyes and say, "Yeah right, you never really wanted the job." "Oh yeah, right. You really didn't have that much in common with her, and you figured that out just about the time she threw the engagement ring in your face."</p> <p>We smirk because we believe that synthetic happiness is not of the same quality as what we might call natural happiness. What are these terms? Natural happiness is what we get when we get what we wanted, and synthetic happiness is what we make when we don't get what we wanted. And in our society, we have a strong belief that synthetic happiness is of an inferior kind. Why do we have that belief? Well, it's very simple. What kind of economic engine would keep churning if we believed that not getting what we want could make us just as happy as getting it?</p> <p>With all apologies to my friend Matthieu Ricard, a shopping mall full of Zen monks is not going to be particularly profitable because they don't want stuff enough. I want to suggest to you that synthetic happiness is every bit as real and enduring as the kind of happiness you stumble upon when you get exactly what you were aiming for. Now, I'm a scientist, so I'm going to do this not with rhetoric, but by marinating you in a little bit of data.</p> <p>Let me first show you an experimental paradigm that is used to demonstrate the synthesis of happiness among regular old folks. And this isn't mine. This is a 50-year-old paradigm called the free choice paradigm. It's very simple. You bring in, say, six objects, and you ask a subject to rank them from the most to the least liked. In this case, because the experiment I'm going to tell you about uses them, these are Monet prints. So, everybody can rank these Monet prints from the one they like the most, to the one they like the least. Now we give you a choice: "We happen to have some extra prints in the closet. We're going to give you one as your prize to take home. We happen to have number three and number four," we tell the subject. This is a bit of a difficult choice, because neither one is preferred strongly to the other, but naturally, people tend to pick number three because they liked it a little better than number four.</p> <p>Sometime later — it could be 15 minutes, it could be 15 days — the same stimuli are put before the subject, and the subject is asked to re-rank the stimuli. "Tell us how much you like them now." What happens? Watch as happiness is synthesized. This is the result that has been replicated over and over again. You're watching happiness be synthesized Would you like to see it again? Happiness! "The one I got is really better than I thought! That other one I didn't get sucks!" (Laughter) That's the synthesis of happiness.</p> <p>Now what's the right response to that? "Yeah, right!" Now, here's the experiment we did, and I would hope this is going to convince you that "Yeah, right!" was not the right response.</p> <p>We did this experiment with a group of patients who had anterograde amnesia. These are hospitalized patients. Most of them have Korsakoff's syndrome, a polyneuritic psychosis that — they drank way too much, and they can't make new memories. OK? They remember their childhood, but if you walk in and introduce yourself, and then leave the room, when you come back they don't know who you are.</p> <p>We took our Monet prints to the hospital. And we asked these patients to rank them from the one they liked the most to the one they liked the least. We then gave them the choice between number three and number four Like everybody else, they said, "Gee, thanks Doc! That's great! I could use a new print. I'll take number three." We explained we would have number three mailed to them. We gathered up our materials and we went out of the room, and counted to a half hour. Back into the room, we say, "Hi, we're back." The patients, bless them, say, "Ah, Doc, I'm sorry, I've got a memory problem, that's why I'm here. If I've met you before, I don't remember." "Really, Jim, you don't remember? I was just here with the Monet prints?" "Sorry, Doc, I just don't have a clue." "No problem, Jim. All I want you to do for me is rank these from the one you like the most to the one you like the least."</p> <p>What do they do? Well, let's first check and make sure they're really amnesiac. We ask these amnesiac patients to tell us which one they own, which one they chose last time, which one is theirs. And what we find is amnesiac patients just guess. These are normal controls, where if I did this with you, all of you would know which print you chose. But if I do this with amnesiac patients, they don't have a clue. They can't pick their print out of a lineup.</p> <p>Here's what normal controls do: they synthesize happiness. Right? This is the change in liking score, the change from the first time they ranked to the second time they ranked. Normal controls show — that was the magic I showed you, now I'm showing it to you in graphical form — "The one I own is better than I thought. The one I didn't own, the one I left behind, is not as good as I thought." Amnesiacs do exactly the same thing. Think about this result.</p> <p>These people like better the one they own, but they don't know they own it. "Yeah, right," is not the right response! What these people did when they synthesized happiness is they really, truly changed their affective, hedonic, aesthetic reactions to that poster. They're not just saying it because they own it, because they don't know they own it.</p> <p>Now, when psychologists show you bars, you know that they are showing you averages of lots of people. And yet, all of us have this psychological immune system, this capacity to synthesize happiness, but some of us do this trick better than others. And some situations allow anybody to do it more effectively than other situations do. It turns out that freedom — the ability to make up your mind and change your mind — is the friend of natural happiness, because it allows you to choose among all those delicious futures and find the one you most enjoy. But freedom to choose — to change and make up your mind — is the enemy of synthetic happiness. And I'm going to show you why.</p> <p>Dilbert already knows, of course. You're reading the cartoon as I'm talking. "Dogbert's tech support. How may I abuse you?" "My printer prints a blank page after every document." "Why would you complain about getting free paper?" "Free? Aren't you just giving me my own paper?" "Egad, man! Look at the quality of the free paper compared to your lousy regular paper! Only a fool or a liar would say that they look the same!" "Ah! Now that you mention it, it does seem a little silkier!" "What are you doing?" "I'm helping people accept the things they cannot change." Indeed.</p> <p>The psychological immune system works best when we are totally stuck, when we are trapped. This is the difference between dating and marriage, right? I mean, you go out on a date with a guy, and he picks his nose; you don't go out on another date. You're married to a guy and he picks his nose? Yeah, he has a heart of gold; don't touch the fruitcake. Right? (Laughter) You find a way to be happy with what's happened. Now what I want to show you is that people don't know this about themselves, and not knowing this can work to our supreme disadvantage.</p> <p>Here's an experiment we did at Harvard. We created a photography course, a black-and-white photography course, and we allowed students to come in and learn how to use a darkroom. So we gave them cameras, they went around campus, they took 12 pictures of their favorite professors and their dorm room and their dog, and all the other things they wanted to have Harvard memories of. They bring us the camera, we make up a contact sheet, they figure out which are the two best pictures, and we now spend six hours teaching them about darkrooms, and they blow two of them up, and they have two gorgeous eight-by-10 glossies of meaningful things to them, and we say, "Which one would you like to give up?" They say, "I have to give one up?" "Oh, yes. We need one as evidence of the class project. So you have to give me one. You have to make a choice. You get to keep one, and I get to keep one."</p> <p>Now, there are two conditions in this experiment. In one case, the students are told, "But you know, if you want to change your mind, I'll always have the other one here, and in the next four days, before I actually mail it to headquarters, I'll be glad to" — (Laughter) — yeah, "headquarters" — "I'll be glad to swap it out with you. In fact, I'll come to your dorm room and give — just give me an email. Better yet, I'll check with you. You ever want to change your mind, it's totally returnable." The other half of the students are told exactly the opposite: "Make your choice. And by the way, the mail is going out, gosh, in two minutes, to England. Your picture will be winging its way over the Atlantic. You will never see it again." Now, half of the students in each of these conditions are asked to make predictions about how much they're going to come to like the picture that they keep and the picture they leave behind. Other students are just sent back to their little dorm rooms and they are measured over the next three to six days on their liking, satisfaction with the pictures. And look at what we find.</p> <p>First of all, here's what students think is going to happen. They think they're going to maybe come to like the picture they chose a little more than the one they left behind, but these are not statistically significant differences. It's a very small increase, and it doesn't much matter whether they were in the reversible or irreversible condition.</p> <p>Wrong-o. Bad simulators. Because here's what's really happening. Both right before the swap and five days later, people who are stuck with that picture, who have no choice, who can never change their mind, like it a lot! And people who are deliberating — "Should I return it? Have I gotten the right one? Maybe this isn't the good one? Maybe I left the good one?" — have killed themselves. They don't like their picture, and in fact even after the opportunity to swap has expired, they still don't like their picture. Why? Because the reversible condition is not conducive to the synthesis of happiness.</p> <p>So here's the final piece of this experiment. We bring in a whole new group of naive Harvard students and we say, "You know, we're doing a photography course, and we can do it one of two ways. We could do it so that when you take the two pictures, you'd have four days to change your mind, or we're doing another course where you take the two pictures and you make up your mind right away and you can never change it. Which course would you like to be in? " Duh! 66 percent of the students, two-thirds, prefer to be in the course where they have the opportunity to change their mind. Hello? 66 percent of the students choose to be in the course in which they will ultimately be deeply dissatisfied with the picture. Because they do not know the conditions under which synthetic happiness grows.</p> <p>The Bard said everything best, of course, and he's making my point here but he's making it hyperbolically: "'Tis nothing good or bad / But thinking makes it so." It's nice poetry, but that can't exactly be right. Is there really nothing good or bad? Is it really the case that gall bladder surgery and a trip to Paris are just the same thing? That seems like a one-question IQ test. They can't be exactly the same.</p> <p>In more turgid prose, but closer to the truth, was the father of modern capitalism, Adam Smith, and he said this. This is worth contemplating: "The great source of both the misery and disorders of human life seems to arise from overrating the difference between one permanent situation and another … Some of these situations may, no doubt, deserve to be preferred to others, but none of them can deserve to be pursued with that passionate ardor which drives us to violate the rules either of prudence or of justice, or to corrupt the future tranquility of our minds, either by shame from the remembrance of our own folly, or by remorse for the horror of our own injustice." In other words: yes, some things are better than others.</p> <p>We should have preferences that lead us into one future over another. But when those preferences drive us too hard and too fast because we have overrated the difference between these futures, we are at risk. When our ambition is bounded, it leads us to work joyfully. When our ambition is unbounded, it leads us to lie, to cheat, to steal, to hurt others, to sacrifice things of real value. When our fears are bounded, we're prudent, we're cautious, we're thoughtful. When our fears are unbounded and overblown, we're reckless, and we're cowardly.</p> <p>The lesson I want to leave you with from these data is that our longings and our worries are both to some degree overblown, because we have within us the capacity to manufacture the very commodity we are constantly chasing when we choose experience.</p> <p>Thank you.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224386/dan-gilbert:why-are-we-happy-why-aren-t-we-happy">Dan Gilbert: Why are we happy? Why aren't we happy?</a>
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						 <p>The experience versus remembering self. Fascinating talk by Daniel Kahneman.</p> <p>The next time you reach your goals but later say, 'crappy workout today', think of this.</p> <p><br /> <br /></p> <div style="text-align: center;"> <p><object width="640" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/XgRlrBl-7Yg&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" /> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/XgRlrBl-7Yg&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="640" height="385" /></object></p> </div> <p><br /></p> <h2><span>Transcript:</span></h2> <p>Everybody talks about happiness these days. I had somebody count the number of books with "happiness" in the title published in the last five years and they gave up after about 40, and there were many more. There is a huge wave of interest in happiness, among researchers. There is a lot of happiness coaching. Everybody would like to make people happier. But in spite of all this flood of work, there are several cognitive traps that sort of make it almost impossible to think straight about happiness.</p> <p>And my talk today will be mostly about these cognitive traps. This applies to laypeople thinking about their own happiness, and it applies to scholars thinking about happiness, because it turns out we're just as messed up as anybody else is. The first of these traps is a reluctance to admit complexity. It turns out that the word happiness is just not a useful word anymore because we apply it to too many different things. I think there is one particular meaning to which we might restrict it but, by and large, this is something that we'll have to give up and we'll have to adopt the more complicated view of what well-being is. The second trap is a confusion between experience and memory: basically it's between being happy in your life and being happy about your life or happy with your life. And those are two very different concepts, and they're both lumped in the notion of happiness. And the third is the focusing illusion, and it's the unfortunate fact that we can't think about any circumstance that affects well-being without distorting its importance. I mean, this is a real cognitive trap. There's just no way of getting it right.</p> <p>Now, I'd like to start with an example of somebody who had a question and answer session after one of my lectures reported a story. [unclear …] He said he'd been listening to the symphony and it was absolutely glorious music and at the very end of the recording, there was a dreadful screeching sound. And then he added, really quite emotionally, it ruined the whole experience. But it hadn't. What it had ruined were the memories of the experience. He had had the experience. He had had 20 minutes of glorious music. They counted for nothing because he was left with a memory; the memory was ruined, and the memory was all that he had gotten to keep.</p> <p>What this is telling us, really, is that we might be thinking of ourselves and of other people in terms of two selves. There is an experiencing self, who lives in the present and knows the present, is capable of re-living the past, but basically it has only the present. It's the experiencing self that the doctor approaches — you know, when the doctor asks, "Does it hurt now when I touch you here?" And then there is a remembering self, and the remembering self is the one that keeps score, and maintains the story of our life, and it's the one that the doctor approaches in asking the question, "How have you been feeling lately?" or "How was your trip to Albania?" or something like that. Those are two very different entities, the experiencing self and the remembering self and getting confused between them is part of the mess of the notion of happiness.</p> <p>Now, the remembering self is a storyteller. And that really starts with a basic response of our memories — it starts immediately. We don't only tell stories when we set out to tell stories. Our memory tells us stories, that is, what we get to keep from our experiences is a story. And let me begin with one example. This is an old study. Those are actual patients undergoing a painful procedure. I won't go into detail. It's no longer painful these days, but it was painful when this study was run in the 1990s. They were asked to report on their pain every 60 seconds. And here are two patients. Those are their recordings. And you are asked, "Who of them suffered more?" And it's a very easy question. Clearly, Patient B suffered more. His colonoscopy was longer, and every minute of pain that Patient A had Patient B had and more.</p> <p>But now there is another question: "How much did these patients think they suffered?" And here is a surprise: And the surprise is that Patient A had a much worse memory of the colonoscopy than Patient B. The stories of the colonoscopies were different and because a very critical part of the story is how it ends — and neither of these stories is very inspiring or great — but one of them is this distinct … (Laughter) but one of them is distinctly worse than the other. And the one that is worse was the one where pain was at its peak at the very end. It's a bad story. How do we know that? Because we asked these people after their colonoscopy, and much later, too, "How bad was the whole thing, in total?" and it was much worse for A than for B in memory.</p> <p>Now this is a direct conflict between the experiencing self and the remembering self. From the point of view of the experiencing self, clearly, B had a worse time. Now, what you could do with patient A, and we actually ran clinical experiments, and it has been done, and it does work, you could actually extend the colonoscopy of Patient A by just keeping the tube in without jiggling it too much. That will cause the patient to suffer, but just a little and much less than before. And if you do that for a couple of minutes, you have made the experiencing self of Patient A worse off, and you have the remembering self of Patient A and lot better off, because now you have endowed Patient A with a better story about his experience. What defines a story? And that is true of the stories that memory delivers for us, and it's also true of the stories that we make up. What defines a story are changes, significant moments and endings. Endings are very, very important and, in this case, the ending dominated.</p> <p>Now, the experiencing self lives its life continuously. It has moments of experience, one after the other. And you ask: What happens to these moments? And the answer is really straightforward. They are lost forever. I mean, most of the moments of our life — and I calculated — you know, the psychological present is said to be about three seconds long. Which means that, you know, in a life there, are about 600 million of them. In a month, there are about 600,000. Most of them don't leave a trace. Most of them are completely ignored by the remembering self. And yet, some how you get the sense that they should count, that what happens during these moments of experience is our life. It's the finite resource that we're spending while we're on this earth. And how to spend it, would seem to be relevant, but that is not the story that the remembering self keeps for us.</p> <p>So we have the remembering self and the experiencing self, and they're really quite distinct. The biggest difference between them is in the handling of time. From the point of view of the experiencing self, if you have a vacation, and the second week is just as good as the first, then the two week vacation is twice as good as the one week vacation. That's not the way it works at all for the remembering self. For the remembering self, a two week vacation is barely better than the one week vacation because there are no new memories added. You have not changed the story. And in this way, time is actually the critical variable that distinguishes a remembering self from an experiencing self. Time has very little impact on this story.</p> <p>Now, the remembering self does more than remember and tell stories. It is actually the one that makes decisions because, if you have a patient who has had, say, two colonoscopies with two different surgeons and is deciding which of them to choose, then the one that chooses is the one that has the memory that is less bad, and that's the surgeon that will be chosen. The experiencing self has no voice in this choice. We actually don't choose between experiences. we choose between memories of experiences. And, even when we think about the future, we don't think of our future normally as experiences. We think of our future as anticipated memories. And basically you can look at this, you know, as a tyranny of the remembering self, and you can think of the remembering self sort of dragging the experiencing self through experiences that the experiencing self doesn't need.</p> <p>I have that sense that when we go on vacations this is very frequently the case, that is, we go on vacations, to a very large extent, in the service of our remembering self. And this is a bit hard to justify I think. I mean, how much do we consume our memories? That is one of the explanations that is given for the dominance of the remembering self. And when I think about that, I think about a vacation we had in Antarctica a few years ago, which was clearly the best vacation I've ever had, and I think of it relatively often, relative to how much I think of other vacations. And I probably have consumed my memories of that three week trip, I would say, for about 25 minutes in the last four years. Now, if I had ever opened the folder with the 600 pictures in it, I would have spent another hour. Now, that is three weeks, and that is at most an hour and a half. There seems to be a discrepancy. Now, I may be a bit extreme, you know, in how little appetite I have for consuming memories, but even if you do more of this, there is a genuine question. Why do we put so much weight on memory relative to the weight that we put on experiences?</p> <p>So I want you to think about a thought experiment. Imagine that your next vacation you know that at the end of the vacation all your pictures will be destroyed, and you'll get an amnesic drug so that you won't remember anything. Now, would you choose the same vacation? (Laughter) And if you would choose a different vacation, there is a conflict between your two selves, and you need to think about how to adjudicate that conflict, and it's actually not at all obvious because, if you think in terms of time, then you get one answer. And if you think in terms of memories, you might get another answer. Why do we pick the vacations we do, is a problem that confronts us with a choice between the two selves.</p> <p>Now, the two selves bring up two notions of happiness. There are really two concepts of happiness that we can apply, one per self. So you can ask: How happy is the experiencing self? And then you would ask: How happy are the moments in the experiencing self's life? And they're all — happiness for moments is a fairly complicated process. What are the emotions that can be measured? And, by the way, now we are capable of getting a pretty good idea of the happiness of the experiencing self over time. If you ask for the happiness of the remembering self, it's a completely different thing. This is not about how happily a person lives. It is about how satisfied or pleased the person is when that person thinks about her life. Very different notion. Anyone who doesn't distinguish those notions, is going to mess up the study of happiness, and I belong to a crowd of students of well-being, who've been messing up the study of happiness for a long time in precisely this way.</p> <p>The distinction between the happiness of the experiencing self and the satisfaction of the remembering self has been recognized in recent years, and there are now efforts to measure the two separately, the Gallup Organization has a world poll with more that half a million people have been asked questions about what they thing of their life and about their experiences. And there have been other efforts along those lines. So in recent years, we have begun to learn about the happiness of the two selves. And the main lesson I think that we have learned, is they are really different. You can know how satisfied somebody is with their life, and that really doesn't teach you much about how happily they're living their life, and vice versa. Just to give you a sense of the correlation, the correlation is about .5. What that means is if you met somebody, and you were told, oh his father is six feet tall, how much would you know about his height? Well, you would know something about his height, but there's a lot of uncertainty. You have that much uncertainty. If I tell you that somebody ranked their life eight on a scale of ten, you have a lot of uncertainty about how happy they are with their experiencing self. So the correlation is low.</p> <p>We know something about what controls satisfaction of the happiness self. We know that money is very important, goals are very important. We know that happiness is mainly being satisfied with people that we like, spending time with people that we like. There are other pleasures, but this is dominant. So if you want to maximize the happiness of the two selves, you are going to end up doing very different things. The bottom line of what I've said here is that we really should not think of happiness as a substitute for well-being. It is a completely different notion.</p> <p>Now, very quickly, another reason we cannot think straight about happiness is that we do not attend to the same things when we think about life, and we actually live. So, if you ask the simple question of how happy people are in California, you are not going to get to the correct answer. When you ask that question, you think people must be happier in California, if, say, you live in Ohio. (Laughter) And what happens is when you think about living in California, you are thinking of the contrast between California and other places, and that contrast, say, is in climate. Well, it turns out that climate is not very important to the experiencing self and is not even very important to the reflective self that decides how happy people are. But now, because the reflective self is in charge, you may end up — some people may end up moving to California. And it's sort of interesting to trace what is going to happen to people who move to California in the hope of getting happier. Well, their experiencing self is not going to get happier. We know that. But one thing will happen. They will think they are happier, because, when they think about it, they'll be reminded of how horrible the weather was in Ohio. And they will feel they made the right decision.</p> <p>It is very difficult to think straight about well-being, and I hope I have given you a sense of how difficult it is.</p> <p>Thank you.</p> <p>(Applause)</p> <p>Chris Anderson: Thank you. I've got a question for you. Thank you so much. Now, when we were on the phone a few weeks ago, you mentioned to me that there was quite an interesting result came out of that Gallup survey. Is that something you can share since you do have a few moments left now?</p> <p>Daniel Kahneman: Sure. I think the most interesting result that we found in the Gallup survey is a number, which we absolutely did not expect to find. We found that with respect to the happiness of the experiencing self. When we looked at how feelings vary with income. And it turns out that, below an income of 60,000 dollars a year, for Americans, and that's a very large sample of Americans, like 600,000, but it's a large representative sample, below an income of 600,000 dollars a year…</p> <p>CA: 60,000.</p> <p>DK: 60,000. (Laughter) 60,000 dollars a year, people are unhappy, and they get progressively unhappier the poorer they get. Above that, we get an absolutely flat line. I mean I've rarely seen lines so flat. Clearly, what is happening is money does not buy you experiential happiness, but lack of money certainly buys you misery, and we can measure that misery very, very clearly. In terms of the other self, the remembering self, you get a different story. The more money you earn the more satisfied you are. That does not hold for emotions.</p> <p>CA: But Danny, the whole American endeavor is about life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness. If people took seriously that finding, I mean, it seems to turn upside down everything we believe about, say for example, taxation policy and so forth. Is there any chance that politicians, that the country generally, would take a finding like that seriously and run public policy based on it?</p> <p>DK: You know I think that there is recognition of the role of happiness research in public policy. The recognition is going to be slow in the United States, no question about that, but in the UK, it is happening, and in other countries it is happening. People are recognizing that they ought to be thinking of happiness when they think of public policy. It's going to take awhile, and people are going to debate whether they want to study experience happiness, or whether they want to study life evaluation, so we need to have that debate fairly soon, How to enhance happiness, goes very different ways depending on how you think, and whether you think of the remembering self or you think of the experiencing self. This is going to influence policy, I think, in years to come. In the United States, efforts are being made to measure the experience happiness of the population. This is going to be, I think, within the next decade or two, part of national statistics.</p> <p>CA: Well, it seems to me, this issue will, or at least should be, the most interesting policy discussion to track over the next few years. Thank you so much for inventing behavioral economics. Thank you Danny Kahneman.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-88541">Strength Training / Psychology of Strength</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224304/daniel-kahneman:the-riddle-of-experience-vs-memory">Daniel Kahneman: The riddle of experience vs. memory</a>
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						 <p>Couldn't agree more. Some of the things he says about the opening and ending chapters are true or at least partly true. But he actually falsely accuses Davies in some cases. Although Davies does come off as a 'true believer", like you said, that has nothing to do with the actual information presented. You judge the info and the usefulness of it, not the attitudes of the man presenting it.</p> <p>But Davies does NOT actually claim that trigger point massage is the answer to everything. Probably a standout theory would be the dyslexia thing, pg 26. Now, as a "serious reader" I'd say that one <strong>1.</strong> There are no "odd" coincidences. Coincidences are just that, coincidences. If they are really "odd" then they are no longer coincidence. <strong>2.</strong> He confuses correlation with causation. That does not mean that the connection does not exist, though. However, he does NOT claim that trigger points cause dyslexia. Not once. The way I read it he is presenting it as an example of the kind of thing that could be connected to trigger points and says, quite plainly, at the end: "it would seem worth checking out". Now that does not sound like a man who is trying to say anything for certain.</p> <p>The qutoe above, again, on page 44:</p> <p>" If you hurt all over and massage is doing no good or seems to make the pain worse, you may be dealing with fibromyalgia or some other systemic problem and will have to seek other remedies".</p> <p>What? You mean trigger point therapy isn't always the answer?</p> <p>If I wanted to be really super critical I'd say that going right to fibromyalgia and then having the OR part is a bit leading. That is he is calling attention to the only very clear case where muscle pain is not of myofascial origin, which would tend to reinforce all other pain of being myofascial or of trigger point origin in general. However, I doubt he did that consciously and whatever the case, he does NOT say that trigger point therapy cures everything.</p> <p>You could argue that it's buried but it IS under massage guidelines, which actually makes it more prominent than the opening and ending chapters seeing that massage guidelines are part of the meat and potatoes of the book and the opening and closing chapters, most readers will see as optional.</p> <p>You echo my thoughts exactly on this. So what if he is a "true believer" or zealot. DOES it work? Is the information useful? Ingram gives not one ACTUAL example where any of the info is 'wrong' and simply attacks the style. Plus, most of the opening chapters actually follow Travel and Simons. So if he's going to bash Davies he better be willing to bash them.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66477">Hidden / GUS Page Discussions</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224083/carpal-tunnel-pain-relief-with-kathryn-merrow-and-the-trigger-point-therapy-workbook">Carpal Tunnel Pain Relief with Kathryn Merrow and The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook</a>
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						 <p>I agree with you.</p> <p>There are varying degrees of knowledge. Not everyone has a masters in kinesiology, nor do they care to have one. They just want to know where to apply pressure. If Ingraham wants more knowledge he should buy a book with a higher degree of knowledge associated with it. A master carpenter is not going to buy the dummies guide to deck building, but someone oblivious to the subject may find it extremely helpful and informative, despite the carpenter's opinion.</p> <p>I found his review to be emotionally charged. He bashes the writing style and the zealotism (word?) but never talks about the actual knowledge presented. Is the knowledge wrong? I can live with a poorly written picture book, lol. The thing that got me was the continually advertisement for his own trigger point book. The transparency is there. He's slamming the competitor in favour of his own product. Its like the pepsi vs coke debate. One claims superiority but in the end people stick with what they like.</p> <p>I like the trigger point workbook because I like to find info quickly, not have to spend half an hour looking up words and phrases I don't know. Massage techniques are half the battle. Personally I like the informal approach of some of the stuff in the manual. And I don't mind his suggestions and 'original theories' because they will either help or not. If they help I'm ahead, if they don't I'm no further ahead. Its better than nothing at all!</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66477">Hidden / GUS Page Discussions</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224083/carpal-tunnel-pain-relief-with-kathryn-merrow-and-the-trigger-point-therapy-workbook">Carpal Tunnel Pain Relief with Kathryn Merrow and The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook</a>
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						 <p><a href="http://saveyourself.ca/articles/book-reviews/trigger-point-therapy-workbook.php">http://saveyourself.ca/articles/book-reviews/trigger-point-therapy-workbook.php</a></p> <p>Am I the only one who finds this review by Paul Ingram of the Trigger Point Therapy Workbook to be a bit off target?</p> <p>Basically he can't actually find specific reasons to discredit the book so all he can do is bash the begining and end, which most people will ignore anyway, while alluding generally to Davies making far-fetched claims.</p> <p>But what gets me is his idea that a self-help book should be "extremely detailed" so that you turn out an expert on the subject. That's not the point. People don't want to make a scientific study of it..they just want to know how to self-treat.</p> <p>He also states that some people can't get help with their very difficult cases. Aspirin doesn't always work for very difficult headaches. But when it does work, the relief is real.</p> <p>He calls Davies a Zealot. While I can understand why someone would think Davies a zealot I don't think it is fair to call a man you have never met, and presumably only know threw this book, a zealot. One of the defining charateristics of a zealot is that they are uncompromising. You have to give a man the chance to compromise before you can say that about him. And since he is no longer with us we don't know.</p> <p>If he is a zealot that does not make the actual info less credible. Zealots are not cranks. You judge the info not the attitude.</p> <p>Paul Ingram cannot actually say that large majority of the book isn't right and yet says it is "not credible" What he is saying is that Davies is not credible. Since the majority of the book simply takes Travell and Simons and makes is usable, then they also, must not be credible.</p> <p>This is so related to the "perfectionistic syndrome" I was alluding to in my bad fitness article posts. The harder you try to make something aimed at a general audience perfect, the less useful you make it.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66477">Hidden / GUS Page Discussions</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-224083/carpal-tunnel-pain-relief-with-kathryn-merrow-and-the-trigger-point-therapy-workbook">Carpal Tunnel Pain Relief with Kathryn Merrow and The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook</a>
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						 <p>Thanks, E.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66477">Hidden / GUS Page Discussions</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223150/gripper-guide-continued">Gripper Guide Continued</a>
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						 <p>Another great guide, Joe. I'm just amazed by the depth you go into.</p> <p>And good hand modeling by Anuj, lol.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66477">Hidden / GUS Page Discussions</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223150/gripper-guide-continued">Gripper Guide Continued</a>
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						 <p>It's just for the pullups, haha.</p> <p>Actually here's something. Today was a big upper body day what with all the pullups and the OH squat. I also did dumbell lunge presses, lat pulldown and pushups.</p> <p>You know that I do a lot of volume on pulling in general, not that today was really high volume.</p> <p>Anyway on upper body days sometimes stretching the pecs out helps and especially before rows. Sometimes with really heavy days what I want is to keep the shoulders back and down rather than really stretch the chest. This helps keep the back feeling right and it helps the trap soreness I get which is an ache.</p> <p>So in between sets what I will do is take a stretch band, grab it in the middle about shoulder width or so apart and bring it around behind me so that it is wrapped around my upper back. This forces my arms and hands back so that I am in a position like the bottom position of a pushup, except with a bit more stretch due to the band. The scapula are forced into passive retraction. I just let the band hold me that way and I also keep the shoulders depressed and get a bit of stretch in the neck. Then I just walk around that way between the set. Feels great and makes everything feel just so again.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223587/one-arm-pullup-journal">One Arm Pullup Journal</a>
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						 <p>On the contrary I wasn't disagreeing with you or trying to say your were making pistols out to be some high skill thing. I absolutely agree that many WOULD classify them as a "feat". And I can understand why they would do that even if I don't really agree with it.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66477">Hidden / GUS Page Discussions</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-222028/bodyweight-exercises:the-wide-eyed-effect">Bodyweight Exercises: The Wide Eyed Effect</a>
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						 <p>This is just soooo awesome you've started your own journal….!!!! :-)</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223587/one-arm-pullup-journal">One Arm Pullup Journal</a>
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						 <p>I wasn't necessarily comparing the skill required for a pistol or pullup to the skill required for a handstand pushup. I was making a comparison of these bodyweight exercises based on their 'show of strength' and their value vs effort required. Problem is, I made it subtly.</p> <p>I agree that a pistol and a pullup are not very difficult to pick up. It would certainly take more time and effort for me to perform a handstand pushup than it would to perform a pistol (pullup taking the least amount of time, lol).</p> <p>In terms of bodyweight exercises, the pistol and pullup imo have more bang for their buck than a handstand pushup.</p> <p>When I made my comment about pistols being arguably skill specific strength, it wasn't in response to your mention of pistols. I actually missed your mention of them and had only put them in after I wrote about pullups.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66477">Hidden / GUS Page Discussions</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-222028/bodyweight-exercises:the-wide-eyed-effect">Bodyweight Exercises: The Wide Eyed Effect</a>
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						 <p>Well you know what I threw around the word skill a lot as in 'motor skill' as if they were all created equally. It was a blog post after all and the more perfect you try to make one the worse it is.</p> <p>But you you brought up the pistol and I mentioned pistols as being a "skill" we like but I didn't really mean to compare a pistol to a handstand pushup in terms of how one might organize skills.</p> <p>Frankly I don't think pistols are a really big show of skill. They are tough as hell to get down but they really do not involve that many skills put together. I think they are a bigger show of strength and stability than "skill". I know a lot of people like to get up to calling everything they do a "skill" and yes, everything we do involves motor skills. But depending on how you classify them, all motor skills are not created equally.</p> <p>I guess the way I'd describe a pistol is as a 'discrete' skill. That is it is a skill that basically is begin…end. Compare pistols to something like jumping up and down or kicking a ball to see what I mean. It's much harder to do pistols than to jump up and down or kick a ball but that does not mean it is a highly complex skill as compared to those things. It actually takes lots of practice to be able to kick a ball with precision and consistency. You couple that with upredictability like in soccer or fieldgoals in football and it becomes an open skill. Or more on the open end of things. Pistols remain a closed skill. The wind does not interfere with your pistols, lol.</p> <p>Sure there are primary movement patterns that are involved in it but it is a straightforward discrete skill that is done and over very quickly. Snatch lift or a clean and jerk is much more "skillful" than a pistol even though it looks like one continuous thing.</p> <p>Comparing pistols, in terms of skill, to handstand pushups, then ask yourself, is a handstand pushup a discrete skill? The answer is heck no!</p> <p>Let's see, when you started pistols you could already stand on your feet. And I'll bet you you could balance on one leg pretty well too, right? Most of us can do that in kindergarten. From there the gist of it is deep knee bend…stand up. Pretty closed loop.</p> <p>The handstand pushup on the other hand is a 'serial' skill. It involves a number of discrete skills together. The resources required to do on are MUCH greater. I doubt very much that the payoff is worth the resources as far as all the "superior strength" stuff is concerned. That doesn't mean they aren't worth doing but selling them based on pie in the sky claims is what I'm against.</p> <p>If I thought that pistols were comparable to some of the bodyweight skills I talking about here I wouldn't really want trainees to do them unless they wanted to do them because they found intrinsic value in them and just wanted the challenge.</p> <p>Pullups…again, not a high skill exercise.</p> <p>I should point out that nothing falls wholly in one category or another. No skills are completely open or completely closed. And none are completely discrete. You could argue that weighted pistols require picking up some dumbells or kettlebells, straightening up, so on and so forth. That's silly but the point is it's really the eye of the beholder.</p> <p>And there are other ways to classify motor skills.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66477">Hidden / GUS Page Discussions</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-222028/bodyweight-exercises:the-wide-eyed-effect">Bodyweight Exercises: The Wide Eyed Effect</a>
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						 <p>For today I kept it simple. I used a towel draped around the bar as an assist.</p> <p>First I should note something about body position. Right now I am addressing the pullup bar sideways. That is I am not facing it but turning my body sideways to it so that the front of my body faces the length of the bar. So when I grap it I am basically using what looks like a hammer or neutral grip. I have the cabability of twisting around at the top to face the bar. But I will leave that for later. The reason for this is to stave off elbow irritation until the elbows are a bit more conditioned. And it is easier. The basic goal is to pull my body up with one arm. I'm not going to quibble about body position. I have a strategy which will reveal itself as I go along.</p> <p>So the towel goes on the bar in front of me and the non-working hand goes around the towel to assist. The lower down your grap the towel the harder it is as the less assistance you can give. But this method does give a lot of assistance in general, probably.</p> <p>I use a 'hand-width" to keep up with the hand position on the towel and thus progress. Today I started with the assisting hand one hand down from the bar.</p> <p>I did 9 total reps. Short rest in between for the most part. The first set was actually 2 reps but I stuck with one after that.</p> <p>My plan was to warm up with some regular BW pullups but I made a rookie mistake and allowed myself to get distracted by a phone call. Then went right into the one arms without a warm up.</p> <p>The first two were fairly easy with the assistance but my right bicep hollered at me a bit which is when I realized I has skipped the warmup. Hey, when you've done as many pullups as I've done it's easy not to notice not doing them, lol. That put the fear of whatever in me so I took it easy with one rep at a time.</p> <p>As I expected it got easier as I went along until about the 8th rep. So I rested a bit longer and pulled one more and called it a day.</p> <p>Next time I expect to be able to add reps to all those no problem. Then I'll move my hand down.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223587/one-arm-pullup-journal">One Arm Pullup Journal</a>
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						 <p>Currently I don't have access to a dip belt so when it comes to my pullups and chinups I use the old fashioned technique of holding a dumbbell in my feet (I don't hold it with the bell up between my feet because it aggrevates my ankles, I place the handle across the top of one foot and place my other foot on top to stop it from rolling).</p> <p>The other day at the gym I was doing pullups with a 45lb dumbbell and after a set this woman motions to me to take my headphones off. I originally thought she was going to complain about something I had done but she looks at me and says "you're crazy". Thinking nothing of the pullups I had just done I didn't clue in at first. Not only was she impressed at the pullups but she was also impressed by the fact I could hold a 45lb dumbbell on the top of my foot, lol.</p> <p>Pistols. The mobility and stability required to do a proper pistol squat is impressive, the resistance is often overlooked. A bodyweight pistol could be argued as a skill specific show of strength, but the strength really begins when you're holding onto a couple dumbbells. Skill helps you, with strength of course, to nab the first ones but from there your skill can only increase so much until strength needs to grab the baton.</p> <p>Little things like that, which are exclusive to bodyweight exercises for the most part, can become a show of strength themselves. My intention was to do some weighted pullups, not perform feats of strength. That's how I treat bodyweight exercises. I'm doing them because I find value in them. If it becomes a feat of strength, so be it, but that is not the primary goal.</p> <p>BTW, my hand stand course is only 3 easy payments of $22.99. :)</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66477">Hidden / GUS Page Discussions</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-222028/bodyweight-exercises:the-wide-eyed-effect">Bodyweight Exercises: The Wide Eyed Effect</a>
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						 <p>So I've decided to finally get serious about getting a one arm pullup. I thought it would be fun to keep a journal of the process and I hope it will be interesting. Since I doubt it will be THAT interesting I will throw in other stuff along the way but this will mostly be about achieving a one arm pullup. And then more than one, lol.</p> <h1><span>Why am I doing this?</span></h1> <p>Why do we climb the mountain? Seriously, though, it's something that's been in the back of my mind but my obsession with heavy things has kept it on the back burner. Especially that damned deadlift.</p> <p>Right now I have some setbacks. I have been layed off of training for a while but things are going well as far as getting back into it. However, overhead squats are presenting a big problem. My wrists are being killed by them because of the wide grip and my wrists being really bad in the first place. Problem is my shoulders will just not let me narrow the grip, right now. And even with moderate weights my wrists are ending up sore for days. I can't even do 80 or so without then screaming at me because of the angle. So I am going to have to buckle down and see if I can get the grip in, which means a whole long process and light weights. OH squat is important to me. I don't want to give it up without a fight.</p> <p>Given that I needed something fun and challenging but that was a straight forward goal that I knew was well within my capability. I am very 'proficient' at pullups and I can handle 100 + extra pounds for a rep or two (not right now, laid off, remember).</p> <p>So I will be doing my regular pullups getting my strength back as for extra weight plus getting the reps back up but that is the same old same old. So enter the one arm pull up.</p> <p>What I plan is to talk as much about my mistakes as my failures. Since I am very advanced at pullups normally, it should be interesting to see how easy or hard this is for me. I don't know how many people go through the process of adding a whole lot of weight to their regular pullups before attempting the one arm pull-up.</p> <p>I should note a little about terminology.</p> <p>1. Although I'm saying one arm "pullup" really I'll be working towards what most would consider a one arm "chinup" which is with my hand suppinated or facing me. I'll probably use the terms interchangeably but for the forseeable future I will really be talking about a one arm chinup.</p> <p>2. This is a one ARM ONLY pullup. This is not that thing where you grab the bar with one hand then place the other hand on the wrist of that hand. That may be a one HAND pullup but it is not a ONE ARM PULLUP. No, you cannot do 20 one arm pullups, 80% of bodybuilders on forums.</p> <p>I leave this for the introductory post and make the next post about today's session.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223587/one-arm-pullup-journal">One Arm Pullup Journal</a>
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						 <blockquote> <p>I'm sure you will get the #1 soon enough.</p> </blockquote> <p>I think so too. There was a major improvement in the quality of those reps too. I think your progression scheme is awesome and I am going to adopt your policy of having them on a separate day. It makes a lot of sense and I think progress will come better that way too.</p> <blockquote> <p>My next blog post is geared towards gripper training expectations and I'm leaning towards including some training methodology as well. Keep an eye for it.</p> </blockquote> <p>You can count on that! :)</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66477">Hidden / GUS Page Discussions</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223150/gripper-guide-continued">Gripper Guide Continued</a>
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						 <h1><span><strong>Press Training</strong></span></h1> <h3><span><em>Mesocycle 19 - Week 1</em></span></h3> <p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Beginning Thoughts:</strong></span></p> <p>Just got back from the gym…</p> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Workout:</span></strong></p> <p><strong>Pull-ups:</strong><br /> BW x 11 reps<br /> BW x 11 reps<br /> BW x 9 reps<br /> BW x 7 reps<br /> Total = 38 reps</p> <p><strong>Incline Close Grip Crazy Bell Bench Press:</strong><br /> 185 lbs x 4 reps x 3 sets</p> <p><strong>Unilateral Overhead Press:</strong><br /> 65 lbs x 5 reps x 3 sets</p> <p><strong>Skullcrushers / JM Presses:</strong><br /> 65 lbs x 6 reps x 3 sets</p> <p><strong>Facepulls:</strong><br /> 80 lbs x 15 reps x 3 sets</p> <p><strong>Pallof Press:</strong><br /> 32.5 lbs x 12 reps<br /> 42.5 lbs x 12 reps<br /> 47.5 lbs x 12 reps</p> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Videos:</span></strong></p> <p>Pull-ups, Incline Close Grip Crazy Bell Bench Press, Unilateral Overhead Press and Skullcrushers / JM Presses:</p> <div class="collapsible-block"> <div class="collapsible-block-folded"><a class="collapsible-block-link" href="javascript:;" >show&nbsp;video</a></div> <div class="collapsible-block-unfolded" style="display:none"> <div class="collapsible-block-unfolded-link"><a class="collapsible-block-link" href="javascript:;" >hide&nbsp;video</a></div> <div class="collapsible-block-content"> <p><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/pLWqkXU5_oo&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" /> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/pLWqkXU5_oo&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344" /></object></p> </div> </div> </div> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Overall Impression:</span></strong></p> <p>Time to rest…</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208088/big-boy-basics-part-1">Big Boy Basics Part 1</a>
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						 <p>I'm sure you will get the #1 soon enough. Thanks for commenting.</p> <p>My next blog post is geared towards gripper training expectations and I'm leaning towards including some training methodology as well. Keep an eye for it.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66477">Hidden / GUS Page Discussions</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223150/gripper-guide-continued">Gripper Guide Continued</a>
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						 <p>I used Joe's advice for my grip work and it worked well. I think I will be able to close the CoC #1 soon.</p> <p>After looking at my haphazzard crush-grip training, Joe commented:</p> <blockquote> <p>Give this a try:<br /> Walmart Gripper- 2 sets of 5, no setting, slowly squeeze for the first set (about 2 seconds per close), squeeze hard and fast on the second set.<br /> HG 150- 2 sets of 2, no set closes<br /> CoC #1- Quality Singles, slighty set it for proper placement, do as many singles as you can comfortably do, if you can't get any do a couple singles with the HG150 and return<br /> HG 150- 1 set, 1-2 reps shy of failure, no greater than 8 reps, hard and fast.</p> <p>Plenty of rest between ALL sets.</p> </blockquote> <p>I stuck to his rules and got 3 good quality singles on the CoC #1. I am going to shift the grip training to a separate day just for this. It requires patience and concentration and I don't think this sort of grip training is suitable for the gym as much.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66477">Hidden / GUS Page Discussions</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223150/gripper-guide-continued">Gripper Guide Continued</a>
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						 <p>I used your idea for the grip training. I am going to have it on a separate day next time but I did do it today and it was better than last time. Thanks for the tips!!! :)</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-199639/joe-weir-strength-journal">Joe Weir Strength Journal</a>
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						 <h1><span><strong>Squat Training</strong></span></h1> <h3><span><em>Mesocycle 19 - Week 1</em></span></h3> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Beginning Thoughts:</span></strong></p> <p>Tonight's workout…</p> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Workout:</span></strong></p> <p><strong>Front Squats:</strong><br /> 260 lbs x 2 reps @ 92.5%<br /> 230 lbs x 5 reps x 3 sets @ 82.5%<br /> Decent…</p> <p><strong>Grip Training:</strong><br /> Walmart Gripper = 5 reps x 2 sets; Set 1 slowly (2 seconds per squeeze) and Set 2 done fast<br /> HG 150 = 2 reps x 2 sets<br /> CoC #1 = 1 rep x 3 sets - Quality Singles<br /> HG 150 = 8 reps<br /> Decent….still having a VERY hard time closing the CoC #1 but with Joe's instructions I will get there soon</p> <p><strong>Metabolic Conditioning for 2 rounds:</strong><br /> Kettlebell Swings = 45 lbs x 12 reps<br /> Russian Twists = 10 lbs x 8 reps<br /> Supine Glute Ham Raises = BW x 10 reps<br /> Swiss Ball Jackknife Pikes = BW x 8 reps<br /> Decent work..</p> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Videos:</span></strong></p> <p>Front Squats &amp; Metabolic Conditioning:</p> <div class="collapsible-block"> <div class="collapsible-block-folded"><a class="collapsible-block-link" href="javascript:;" >show&nbsp;video</a></div> <div class="collapsible-block-unfolded" style="display:none"> <div class="collapsible-block-unfolded-link"><a class="collapsible-block-link" href="javascript:;" >hide&nbsp;video</a></div> <div class="collapsible-block-content"> <p><object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/ctIkfcDdetE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" /> <param name="allowFullScreen" value="true" /> <param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always" /> <embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/ctIkfcDdetE&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344" /></object></p> </div> </div> </div> <p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Overall Impression:</span></strong></p> <p>Tomorrow is a Press Day!!! <img src="http://groundupstrength.wdfiles.com/local--files/forum:start/smile.gif" alt="smile.gif" class="image" /></p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208088/big-boy-basics-part-1">Big Boy Basics Part 1</a>
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				<title>Re: How can I tell if my protein is expired XD</title>
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						 <p>Oh well that puts it on more shakey ground (get it?) but probably if it were bad the worse you could expect would be some, ahem, gastrointestinal irregularities.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-93218">Nutrition / Supplements</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223054/how-can-i-tell-if-my-protein-is-expired-xd">How can I tell if my protein is expired XD</a>
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						 <p>Actually its been opened since summer since he has had a few shakes from it. Like I said i've had a few myself and its not something that i would automatically spit out. Thanks!</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-93218">Nutrition / Supplements</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223054/how-can-i-tell-if-my-protein-is-expired-xd">How can I tell if my protein is expired XD</a>
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						 <p>The number at the bottom is probably the lot number and usually the date is a part of that but that doesn't mean you can tease out the date from it. It's probably ok if you just opened it. Protein powder of course does go bad but you should be able to smell a rancid odor from it. Yes, folks, I've checked and if you keep whey powder long enough it gets stinky. But this stuff is meant to have hell of a shelf like like anything we buy off the shelf these days. I'm thinking you're probably ok with it supposing it's not poison to begin with, lol.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-93218">Nutrition / Supplements</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223054/how-can-i-tell-if-my-protein-is-expired-xd">How can I tell if my protein is expired XD</a>
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						 <p>I can't seem to find a date but my cousin had bought it over the summer at a GNC and since he still hadn't used it and doesn't plan on using it, knowing that i needed some, he gave it to me. I was with him when he bought it so i know he isnt fooling around. Its Ultimate Nutrition ProStar 100% Whey Protein Platinum Series 5lbs Strawberry. All the numbers that I could find are the UPC code and a code on the bottom that says 11&nbsp;4244. I had two shakes from it already and it doesn't taste completely disgusting. I already contacted Ultimate Nutrition to see if they could tell me anything.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-93218">Nutrition / Supplements</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-223054/how-can-i-tell-if-my-protein-is-expired-xd">How can I tell if my protein is expired XD</a>
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						 <blockquote> <p>But they must be calculated risks.</p> </blockquote> <p>Exactly, sir. This won't happen again.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208088/big-boy-basics-part-1">Big Boy Basics Part 1</a>
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						 <p>Yeah. Look I know that you have developed that capacity to be aware of what your body is doing. In fact that is the capacity of the more advanced person. People have all these (crap) definitions of advanced but I honestly think that awareness of this kind is a mark of the advanced. But it only takes a moment out of focus, right? That's the thing. You can be completely tuned in and centered 99.9 percent of the time and it only takes that .1 percent to do you in. Given that you HAVE to take risks. With these kinds of weights it's always a risk. But they must be calculated risks.</p> <br/>Forum category: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/c-66825">Members Training and Journals / Personal Journals</a><br/>Forum thread: <a href="http://www.gustrength.com/forum/t-208088/big-boy-basics-part-1">Big Boy Basics Part 1</a>
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